[members-discuss] R: Feedback Requested: RIPE NCC Broker List

+1 ;)

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Dne 19. 12. 19 v 14:23 Redcluster napsal(a):
> I would say RIPE NCC should become the broker for its members.
>
> It's quite clear that most ipv4 transfers are sales, nobody would give 
> back a valuable resource.
>
> Why not make it easy, simple and transparent?   List the block for 
> sale via RIPE, see all listings and prices,  buy it via RIPE.
>
> Regards,
>
> Bogdan
>
> On 12/19/2019 12:44 PM, Jetten Raymond wrote:
>> Alessandro,
>>
>> I think that the RIPE NCC should not be(come) a bank.
>>
>> Everyone else
>>
>> I can understand B, but also C.
>> If we have to go for B, there are a few things we must change:
>> page:
>> https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/resource-transfers-and-mergers/transfers/transfer-faqs/do-brokers-need-to-be-registered-with-the-ripe-ncc-to-arrange-transfers 
>> says "brokers are not endorsed by the RIPE NCC"
>> and page:
>> https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/resource-transfers-and-mergers/brokers 
>>
>> mentions them anyway.
>>
>> if we want to keep B the section 6 in the agreement with the broker:
>> https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/resource-transfers-and-mergers/brokers/RecognisedIPv4BrokerAgreement.doc 
>>
>> should more explicit mention the misuse of the database and other 
>> rules and  the termination can be immediate (?).
>> (maybe an amendment for the current ones?)
>>
>> Rgds,
>>
>> Ray
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> For Internal Use Only
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net> On Behalf Of 
>> Alessandro Bondesan
>> Sent: 19. joulukuuta 2019 12:19
>> To: members-discuss at ripe.net
>> Subject: [members-discuss] R: Feedback Requested: RIPE NCC Broker List
>>
>> I vote for B too and i think that it will be a good thing to create a 
>> policy that brokers need to accept, maybe it can be a good thing to 
>> update the LIR portal to permit the LIR to contact the broker and 
>> operate the transfer inside the portal itself and with the 
>> negotiations regulated by RIPE NCC, this is, in part, already done 
>> but i mean the following, RIPE NCC can do a sort of man in the middle 
>> for the negotiations between LIR and broker and operate the money 
>> transfer, for example, LIR transfer money to RIPE NCC, when IP 
>> transfer is completed, RIPE NCC transfer money to the broker, perhaps 
>> with a cost limitation and a fee for RIPE NCC for the transfer (a 
>> sort of PayPal) with a dispute manager, or another interesting thing 
>> is to implement a sort of auction so the best offer can win (with 
>> cost limitations so the smaller LIR can afford the cost).
>>
>>
>> Alessandro Bondesan
>> 4ALL
>>
>> Net Global srl
>> AS50316
>>
>>
>> -----Messaggio originale-----
>> Da: members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net] Per 
>> conto di Brandon Butterworth
>> Inviato: giovedì 19 dicembre 2019 11:10
>> A: Lu Heng
>> Cc: members-discuss at ripe.net
>> Oggetto: Re: [members-discuss] Feedback Requested: RIPE NCC Broker List
>>
>> On Thu Dec 19, 2019 at 05:42:45PM +0800, Lu Heng wrote:
>>> I would suggest we go for option C, it???s really not ripe???s job 
>>> to provide
>>> nor endorse any brokers.
>> I suggest B as we're not asking ripe to endorse them, we're
>> asking ripe to provide a reputation registry for members to
>> populate, much like ebay does for vendors. Ones who go bad
>> will be kicked out leaving a trail and less scope to cause
>> harm than in a black market.
>>
>> brandon
>>
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