[members-discuss] [LIR] Re: Fwd: Re: RIPE DB T&C violation by brokers

Hi Henriette,  

Thank you for the feedback. 

> As this now appears to be affecting the trust of our members, we would like to provide some additional details.

That was also the reason why I stated in the last GM (Rotterdam) that the list has serviced its purpose ... and can be removed from the website. 
The market is mature enough by now that there is no requirement on the RIPE NCC website for 'certified' brokers as we hear from customers.  

It is creating more confusion than additional 'trust' .. 

Regards,
Erik Bais

On 10/12/2019, 12:06, "members-discuss on behalf of Henriette Van Ingen" <members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net on behalf of henriette at ripe.net> wrote:

    Dear colleagues,
    
    As this now appears to be affecting the trust of our members, we would like to provide some additional details.
    
    On 18 November we informed Supplity that we would be terminating our agreement with them, with a notice period of 30 days (as provided for in the Recognised IPv4 Broker agreement).
    
    As we can see that they have continued to spam the community after this point, we will now remove them from the list of brokers without waiting for the end of this 30 day period.
    
    We are also considering whether further actions are needed regarding their use of our logo.
    
    Kind regards,
    
    Henriette van Ingen
    Customer Services Manager
    RIPE NCC
    
    
    > On 5 Dec 2019, at 15:58, Sergey Myasoedov <kaa at net-art.cz> wrote:
    > 
    > 
    > Yes, I got it as well.
    > 
    > I wonder if the Board is going to do something with the powerless legal/CS team.
    > 
    > 
    > -- 
    > Kind regards,
    > Sergey Myasoedov
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    > You wrote Thursday, December 5, 2019, 2:04:23 PM:
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    >> Have also got one today, as everyday.
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    >> But we will report all these mails to Spamcop ;-)
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    >> And after every transfer, we did this year (three times) the brokers
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    >> Are really spamming…
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