[members-discuss] Russian government blocked 18mln IPs at 20/04/2018

Hello everyone. 

I've been reading all your messages regarding this problem since some
time now. And i think that this problem shouldn't be handled by RIPE at
all.
Countries blacklist IP addresses and DNS addresses since some time now
(because of piracy, political reasons, etc...). So... just because now,
Russia is blocking a lot of VPN IPs, is a reason for RIPE to step in?
No. I don't think so. 

You all should keep the 2 things appart from each other. We in Portugal,
have since some time now, several torrent websites blocked (IP and DNS)
and you don't ear us complain about it or ask RIPE to talk to the
gouvernment. 

I agree that internet should be regulated. But a regulation can be
benign to some but malign to others. A balance should be found. Internet
would never be free because of this. And it's not the job of RIPE to
balance it. 

Regards

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On 2018-04-25 14:51, Sebastian Wiesinger wrote:

> * Juri <hostmaster at ntx.ru> [2018-04-25 14:20]: Hello Max,
> 
> would you like the world to do exactly your (i.e. Russian citizens) job
> and cut your small dictator off?
> Why?
> It is your country, not our, so do it yourself 
> We can't do that by ourselfs only )
> And, yes, we don't have elections here.
> 
> There some other countries, like Ukraine for example, who copy bad
> practice of Internet censorship too. That's why Internet companies and
> ISPs should think about those problem together.

I hate to say it, but ISPs are bound by the laws of the country
they're operating in. If your government doesn't allow free access
there is nothing anyone outside of your country can do. Change has to
come from within. You are hurt by your governments decision to block
access to millions of IPs? Let them know. Let your customers know who
is responsible. That is not something we can do for you.

Also the RIPE NCC already has an outreach program to meet with and
inform governments, but a government would have to be willing to meet
and be informed.

Regards

Sebastian

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