[members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [GM] RIPE NCC Annual Report 2017 and Proposed RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2019

For the "movers", 5'ish or how many you are there , just an idea - build 
your own NCC with blackjack and hooke.. :-)

On 16/04/2018 12:38, Jaleel A. Mohammad wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
> With respect to all, I received a lot of emails on moving the service 
> and unfortunately I read few of them only.
>
> I strongly agree with below comments made by Robert, my concern is “ 
> the Service” my point is very clear that the Service is most important 
> for my organization & in deed for all of us. Therefor my understanding 
> is not to compromise to move the organization only for low expenses.
>
> It’s all about finance and expenses, so surely there will be a way to 
> come out of this situation and we all will support to fix this issue.
>
> Regard’s
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> *From:*members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net] *On 
> Behalf Of *Robert Vojcik
> *Sent:* 16 April 2018 11:05
> *To:* members-discuss at ripe.net
> *Subject:* Re: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [GM] RIPE NCC Annual 
> Report 2017 and Proposed RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2019
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'd like to contribute to this discussion.
>
> I believe that when it comes to save the money, moving organization 
> always leads to some things
>
>   * moving organization is very expensive itself
>   * if moving is becouse of cost saving, there will be *always* big
>     drop of quality of services, we can see it on many other companies
>
> I believe there is a lot of experts in Ripe NCC and they must be 
> appropriately paid.
>
> If Ripe NCC needs more finances for it's staff or projects etc, I'm 
> for increasing the charge. It's the most effective way to solve the 
> problem.
>
> We also don't want to move such important organization beouse of cost 
> savings. We want progress, new projects, better performance and more 
> secure and free internet and that is no cheap tasks.
>
> If Ripe need more financess, create some finance analysis and then 
> rise up the charge.
>
> On 12.4.2018 17:14, Aleksey Bulgakov wrote:
>
>     <david.ponzone at ipeva.fr <mailto:david.ponzone at ipeva.fr>>:
>
>         AFAIK, social charges paid by the employer in NL are around
>         28%, so it's less than 3000 euros per month per staff member
>         of income.
>
>         And that's before social charges paid by the employee (18%),
>         so it's less than 2500€ of net income per staff.
>
>         I would not judge if that's high or low in NL, but that's not
>         4000€
>
>     So, we can move the RIPE office to another country, with
>     less salary numbers. E.g. there are the salary numbers
>     approximately 1500€ in Russia, including tax 13%. With social tax
>     30% the salary numbers are 2000€ in Moscow.
>
>     What do you think about it? Me and my colleagues, who wrote here
>     earlier, are ready to help the community with relocation.
>
>
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