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Aleksey Bulgakov
aleksbulgakov at gmail.com
Fri Apr 13 15:19:34 CEST 2018
So, what will you do if euro is gone?) Brexit is only beginning. пт, 13 Апр 2018 г., 14:57 William <william at william.si>: > Yes, this sums it up pretty much, including the micro management. > RIPE is overall in an excellent financial position (it rarely was better) > and i see a lot of this ideas ignore the sole costs of moving staff needed, > hardware (eg. import tax) and accounting to another jurisdiction which eats > away the profit from it for years. > > -- > > If RIPE accepts payment in RUR (or GBP, or USD) it has to be exchanged to > Euro immediately, so you pay the interbank rate anyway. In practice, the > same you pay now. > > This exchange is either open market based on horrible rates (for eg. RUR) > or government only and thus a fixed rate nobody can adjust to reality (eg. > a lot of Arab country currencies). > RIPE will not, and is not supposed to, hold foreign bank accounts and > store money until better FX rates (that might never happen) or invest local > for profit. > > > Your complain is also not really RIPE related at all - Russia's currency > is still based on *dollar* and *oil*, any loss is attributable to your > economy and government, we should not subsidise your problems in any way (and > neither should we finance anyone else this way). > > In RIPE countries the most used currency overall is simply Euro, so alone > this justifies the sole usage IMO. > > -- > William Weber > > > > > On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 10:50, Daniel Suchy <danny at danysek.cz> wrote: > > This depends on currency exchange rate, which is variable and RIPE has > no control over it. Other services (IXP, for example) also doesn't > accept payment fixed in local currency from member origin country. > > Even in case of accepting payments in local currency, the > membership/anual fees *must* be equal for each member regardless of > member's regional currency (= respecting currency exchange rates). > > And it's much easier (and with less administrative overhead on RIPE > side) to have membership fees in *single* currency, as exchange rate is > - by design - variable. > > It was already mentioned - some members are trying to "micromanage" RIPE > NCC. That's wrong idea in general. > > With regards, > Daniel > > On 04/13/2018 09:45 AM, Aleksey Bulgakov wrote: > > I completely agree. The Membership in Russia was 150k rubles in 2014 > and 255k rubles is now. The annual fees were 60k rub in 2014 and 100k > rub now. > > пт, 13 Апр 2018 г., 10:21 Alexandr Gurbo <a.gurbo at severen.ru > <mailto:a.gurbo at severen.ru>>: > It is better to pay in our region in Russian rubles, in Europe in > Euro, in England in pounds. All RIPE community should think about > change not only about membership service fees, but and about > currency per region. > > > > _______________________________________________ > members-discuss mailing list > members-discuss at ripe.net > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/william%40william.si > > _______________________________________________ > members-discuss mailing list > members-discuss at ripe.net > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/aleksbulgakov%40gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/attachments/20180413/14e76ff3/attachment.html>
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