[members-discuss] New comment - [#6372] Database Abuse
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Daniel Pearson
daniel at privatesystems.net
Thu Sep 7 13:39:37 CEST 2017
I can agree with this. To go a step further I'd love to see a world where people sending abuse complaints also honor the abuse contact and don't simply spam every individual / email listed as well. On 09/07/2017 03:13 AM, Tim Armstrong wrote: > Which is, to a certain extent, a requirement. > But that's not the real issue, I don't mind people knowing my name, I > just want a world where NOC and Abuse contacts aren't be spammed with > sales pitches constantly. > > > > On 7 Sep 2017 10:05 am, "Christoffer Hansen" <cdh at nianet.dk > <mailto:cdh at nianet.dk>> wrote: > > > If individual employees contact details are being readily exposed > > > > Only if you have entered them in the RIPE DB on objects. (fx. > person, abuse, update etc.) > > On 9/5/2017 13:40, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote: > > How does the RIPE DB and its current protections (or lack of > them) work > > within the framework of GDPR? > > > > > > > > If individual employees contact details are being readily > exposed then > > that could be a serious problem for both us as a LIR and for RIPE. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Michele > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Mr Michele Neylon > > > > Blacknight Solutions > > > > Hosting, Colocation & Domains > > > > https://www.blacknight.com/ > > > > http://blacknight.blog/ > > > > Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 > <tel:%2B353%20%280%29%2059%C2%A0%209183072> > > > > Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 <tel:%2B353%20%280%2959%209183090> > > > > Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ > > > > Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business > Park,Sleaty > > > > Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 > > > > > > > > *From: *members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net > <mailto:members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net>> on behalf of > > Tim Armstrong <t.armstrong at nerdalize.com > <mailto:t.armstrong at nerdalize.com>> > > *Date: *Tuesday 5 September 2017 at 09:52 > > *To: *Catalin Dominte <catalin.dominte at paragon.net.uk > <mailto:catalin.dominte at paragon.net.uk>> > > *Cc: *"members-discuss at ripe.net > <mailto:members-discuss at ripe.net>" <members-discuss at ripe.net > <mailto:members-discuss at ripe.net>> > > *Subject: *Re: [members-discuss] New comment - [#6372] Database > Abuse > > > > > > > > I agree entirely. > > > > > > > > Yes the list of sales contact ones are quite funny. > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Catalin Dominte > > <catalin.dominte at paragon.net.uk > <mailto:catalin.dominte at paragon.net.uk> > <mailto:catalin.dominte at paragon.net.uk > <mailto:catalin.dominte at paragon.net.uk>>> > > wrote: > > > > If RIPE decide to use forms (mainly for abuse reporting), > that would > > be great. Actual email addresses for peering purposes can be > gleaned > > from PeeringDB if one has an account there. > > > > > > > > My recent favourite email I get on the ripe addresses is if I am > > interested in a list of brand new contacts for C level > management > > from various industries. Reported them all as spam, but they > never > > stop. > > > > > > > > *Catalin Dominte* > > > > Network Manager | Paragon Internet Group > > > > /Office: +44 (0)1628 200 219 > <tel:%2B44%20%280%291628%20200%20219> <tel:+44%201628%20200219>/ > > > > > > > > The above information is confidential to the addressee and > may be > > privileged. Unauthorised access and use is prohibited. Internet > > communications are not secure and therefore this company > does not > > accept legal responsibility for the contents of this > message. If you > > are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, > > distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in > reliance > > on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Paragon Internet > Group Ltd > > is registered in England and Wales, Company No.07573953 > > > > > > > > On 5 September 2017 at 09:40:56, Telecoms > (telco at intrinsec.com <mailto:telco at intrinsec.com> > > <mailto:telco at intrinsec.com <mailto:telco at intrinsec.com>>) > wrote: > > > > There is a new comment in the ticket submitted by Tim > Armstrong > > to Cloud Temple - Cloud Operations > > > > > > Comment added by : Tim Armstrong > > > > Comment Content: > > > > And while we are at it, perhaps we could do something > about all > > the freaking Bots on this mailing list? I just got eight > > auto-replies! > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 10:35 AM, Tim Armstrong > > <t.armstrong at nerdalize.com > <mailto:t.armstrong at nerdalize.com> > > <mailto:t.armstrong at nerdalize.com > <mailto:t.armstrong at nerdalize.com>>> wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > Every so often this issue crops up it's ugly > head again, > > RIPE DB abuse is a real problem. > > > > Yet again we are receiving unsolicited sales > pitches via > > an e-mail address we only use for the contact > details in > > our RIPE DB entries. > > > > > > > > We've all seen it; people offering to buy IPv4 > blocks, > > people offering to sell IPv4 blocks, DDoS filtering, > > etc. It's a plague of poorly constructed pitches for > > services none of us want to waste time reading > about. If > > we want such products, we all know how find > them, and > > yet the e-mails don't stop coming. > > > > > > > > I am not one for publicly shaming other members > of the > > community, but if it doesn't stop, I don't see how I > > have a choice. They need to learn that database > abuse > > leads to boycott. > > > > The database is an operations tool for > de-bugging and > > reporting issues & abuse; not a sales team's list of > > "potential leads". > > > > > > > > I hate to bring this subject up again, but is there > > really nothing structural we can do about this? > > > > At a minimum we could occlude e-mail addresses > from the > > public DB, instead having public complaint > submitted via > > a webform on the NCC website, requiring the > uninitiated > > to realise this is an abuse / complaint contact, > not a > > sales opportunity. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Tim. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > *Tim Armstrong** > > *Dark Lord of Network Operations > > +31 6 175 444 72 <tel:%2B31%206%20175%20444%2072> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > *Tim Armstrong > > *Dark Lord of Network Operations > > +31 6 175 444 72 <tel:%2B31%206%20175%20444%2072> > > > > > > > > > > 6372:154148 > > > > ---- > > If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC > > members-discuss > > mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account > and go to > > the general page: > > https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/ > <https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/> > > > > Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing > > Lists". From here, you can add or remove addresses. > > > > > > ---- > > If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC > members-discuss > > mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and > go to the > > general page: > > https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/ > <https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/> > > > > Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing > Lists". > > From here, you can add or remove addresses. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > *Tim Armstrong > > *Dark Lord of Network Operations > > +31 6 175 444 72 <tel:%2B31%206%20175%20444%2072> > <tel:+31617544472 <tel:%2B31617544472>> > > > > > > > > ---- > > If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC > members-discuss > > mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to > the general page: > > https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/ > <https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/> > > > > Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing > Lists". From here, you can add or remove addresses. > > > > > > ---- > If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss > mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to > the general page: > https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/ > <https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/> > > Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". > From here, you can add or remove addresses. > > > > > ---- > If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss > mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the general page: > https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/ > > Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From here, you can add or remove addresses. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/attachments/20170907/eabfe8a4/attachment.html>
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