[members-discuss] New comment - [#6372] Database Abuse

Dear all,

The RIPE NCC is currently in the process of evaluating our services and
procedures in compliance with the General Data Protection Regulation
(GDPR). This includes the personal data in the RIPE Database.

Once our evaluation is concluded, we will communicate our findings and
any potential amendments to our current procedures that are needed in
line with the new legislation.

Thank you,

Athina Fragkouli
Head of Legal
RIPE NCC



On 05/09/2017 13:40, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
> How does the RIPE DB and its current protections (or lack of them) work
> within the framework of GDPR?
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> If individual employees contact details are being readily exposed then
> that could be a serious problem for both us as a LIR and for RIPE.
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> Regards
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> Michele
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> *From: *members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net> on behalf of
> Tim Armstrong <t.armstrong at nerdalize.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday 5 September 2017 at 09:52
> *To: *Catalin Dominte <catalin.dominte at paragon.net.uk>
> *Cc: *"members-discuss at ripe.net" <members-discuss at ripe.net>
> *Subject: *Re: [members-discuss] New comment - [#6372] Database Abuse
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> I agree entirely.
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> Yes the list of sales contact ones are quite funny.
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> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Catalin Dominte
> <catalin.dominte at paragon.net.uk <mailto:catalin.dominte at paragon.net.uk>>
> wrote:
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>     If RIPE decide to use forms (mainly for abuse reporting), that would
>     be great. Actual email addresses for peering purposes can be gleaned
>     from PeeringDB if one has an account there. 
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>      
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>     My recent favourite email I get on the ripe addresses is if I am
>     interested in a list of brand new contacts for C level management
>     from various industries. Reported them all as spam, but they never
>     stop. 
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>     *Catalin Dominte*
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>     On 5 September 2017 at 09:40:56, Telecoms (telco at intrinsec.com
>     <mailto:telco at intrinsec.com>) wrote:
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>         There is a new comment in the ticket submitted by Tim Armstrong
>         to Cloud Temple - Cloud Operations
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>         Comment added by : Tim Armstrong
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>         Comment Content:
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>         And while we are at it, perhaps we could do something about all
>         the freaking Bots on this mailing list? I just got eight
>         auto-replies!
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>             On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 10:35 AM, Tim Armstrong
>             <t.armstrong at nerdalize.com
>             <mailto:t.armstrong at nerdalize.com>> wrote:
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>                 Hi all,
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>                  
> 
>                 Every so often this issue crops up it's ugly head again,
>                 RIPE DB abuse is a real problem. 
> 
>                 Yet again we are receiving unsolicited sales pitches via
>                 an e-mail address we only use for the contact details in
>                 our RIPE DB entries.
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>                  
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>                 We've all seen it; people offering to buy IPv4 blocks,
>                 people offering to sell IPv4 blocks, DDoS filtering,
>                 etc. It's a plague of poorly constructed pitches for
>                 services none of us want to waste time reading about. If
>                 we want such products, we all know how find them, and
>                 yet the e-mails don't stop coming.
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>                  
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>                 I am not one for publicly shaming other members of the
>                 community, but if it doesn't stop, I don't see how I
>                 have a choice. They need to learn that database abuse
>                 leads to boycott.
> 
>                 The database is an operations tool for de-bugging and
>                 reporting issues & abuse; not a sales team's list of
>                 "potential leads".
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>                  
> 
>                 I hate to bring this subject up again, but is there
>                 really nothing structural we can do about this? 
> 
>                 At a minimum we could occlude e-mail addresses from the
>                 public DB, instead having public complaint submitted via
>                 a webform on the NCC website, requiring the uninitiated
>                 to realise this is an abuse / complaint contact, not a
>                 sales opportunity.
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>                  
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>                  
> 
>                 Thanks,
> 
>                 Tim.
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>                  
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>                 *Tim Armstrong**
>                 *Dark Lord of Network Operations
>                 +31 6 175 444 72
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>             *Tim Armstrong
>             *Dark Lord of Network Operations
>             +31 6 175 444 72
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