[members-discuss] Input from Membership on RIPE NCC Charging Scheme Model

/Surprisingly/, the main argument from the "big old ones" is: That's how 
we've always been doing.
Ever heard of the experiment about some monkeys, a ladder and a water hose?

We just got our /22, and we are not going to need any more IPv4 in a 
foreseeable future. IPv6 is the way. We know, we got it, we agree.

*But* I do agree that it is unfair that our fee is the same as some LIR 
that own/hoard/have so many more resources than us.
The people telling us to switch to IPv6 are the ones who run all their 
networks on IPv4 and thus making IPv6 spread slower.

I do find the ARIN model a lot better than the RIPE one.

On 22/09/2016 22:30, Tim Armstrong wrote:
>
> I agree entirely! Too many people are blaming others for their own 
> short sightedness, and frankly it's no one's fault but their own.
>
>
> On 22 Sep 2016 10:16 p.m., "Gert Doering" <gert at space.net 
> <mailto:gert at space.net>> wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 06:30:54PM +0000, Network Engineers wrote:
>     > We need to see better hardware support for IPv6 before we work
>     on end-user adoption.  It???s hard to build apps at Internet scale
>     when your expensive front-end load balancers don???t support IPv6
>     in their ASICs.
>
>     Decide with your wallet.  Just do not buy the stuff that cannot do
>     IPv6 -
>     there is enough stuff available today (and has been since many years)
>     that will happily do IPv6 at the same speed as IPv4.
>
>     For loadbalancers, at least F5 and Citrix Netscaler never had this
>     "IPv6 in software only" tax.
>
>     (And do not complain *now* that you did not listen to us telling
>     everyone
>     for the last 10+ years that "if you buy new gear, make sure that
>     it will
>     do proper IPv6 when you decide to turn it on, when you're ready")
>
>     Gert Doering
>             -- NetMaster
>     --
>     have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?
>
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