[members-discuss] Input from Membership on RIPE NCC Charging Scheme Model

Yeah, that would be good, but with

On 22 Sep 2016 8:30 p.m., "Network Engineers" <NetEng at audiencescience.com>
wrote:
>
> We need to see better hardware support for IPv6 before we work on
end-user adoption.  It’s hard to build apps at Internet scale when your
expensive front-end load balancers don’t support IPv6 in their ASICs.
>
>
> From: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net> on behalf of Tim
Armstrong <t.armstrong at nerdalize.com>
> Date: Thursday, September 22, 2016 at 9:51 AM
> To: Floris Bos <bos at je-eigen-domein.nl>
>
> Cc: "members-discuss at ripe.net" <members-discuss at ripe.net>
> Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Input from Membership on RIPE NCC Charging
Scheme Model
>
> Rather than bickering over the last scraps of IPv4, saving smaller LIRs a
few hundred euros, attempting to somehow screw the older LIRs, or three at
the same time. Wouldn't our time be better spent working out ways to
improve end user adoption of IPv6?
>
> I'd like to propose RIPE set up a fund (summer of code style) for the
implementation of native IPv6 support in open-source software (such as
cloudsta k, etc) and simplifying end-user adoption. Perhaps we should even
offer a free public IPv6 tunnel service for natural persons similar to the
service currently offered by hurricane electric.
>
> -Tim
>
>
> On 22 Sep 2016 6:13 p.m., "Floris Bos" <bos at je-eigen-domein.nl> wrote:
>>
>> On 09/22/2016 01:57 PM, Daniel Pearson wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm not saying that a discussion is bad, but I'm simply saying that
most of the discussions are being had are not based on fact.
>>>
>>> To my knowledge RIPE doesn't have a list of members categorized by
assignment size, so this is something that someone would need to parse the
RIPE db for, it's all public record so it can be done.
>>
>>
>> Counting all allocated IPv4 each LIR has, and converting it back to CIDR:
>>
>> CIDR    Number of LIRs
>>
>> <= /24       1
>> <= /23       4
>> <= /22    6051
>> <= /21    1582
>> <= /20    1638
>> <= /19    1547
>> <= /18    1040
>> <= /17     709
>> <= /16     386
>> <= /15     293
>> <= /14     134
>> <= /13     110
>> <= /12      80
>> <= /11      64
>> <= /10      25
>> <=  /9      14
>> <=  /8       6
>> <=  /7       2
>>
>> IPv6 only  241
>>
>>
>> If we were to take ARIN's fees as example where up to and including /20
is less expensive than RIPE's current fees, 9276 out of the 13686 LIRs with
IPv4 would pay less.
>> Not just new ones...
>>
>> Total income would be similar.
>>
>>
>> Yours sincerely,
>>
>> Floris Bos
>>
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