[members-discuss] Input from Membership on RIPE NCC Charging Scheme Model

Correct.

The whole "how do we redistribute unused IPv4" discussion is mute, 
nonsense, pointless.

Fact: IPv4 is exhausted

Fact: IPv6 has been available for 10+ years. Actually a lot longer than 
that, if we include the test bed.

Redistributing unused IPv4 is patching holes. The holes are bigger than 
the patchwork available or that possibly could be made available.

Get on with life and focus on getting IPv6 deployment sorted. Don't 
rummage around with issues, that aren't solvable.

Kind regards,
Martin List-Petersen
Airwire Ltd.


On 22/09/16 13:18, Host.AG wrote:
> Nobody wants to drop a scarce resource like ipv4, even if they don't use
> it. They'd rather sell it and i believe this is the normal human behavior.
> I believe we should focus on making all ripe members ipv6 ready (100%)
> and any discounts/costs should be based on ipv6 implementation rather
> than ipv4.
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 14:55:12 +0300, Simon Lockhart <simon at slimey.org>
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu Sep 22, 2016 at 09:44:40PM +1000, Arash Naderpour wrote:
>>> Maybe 1k Euro is nothing to many members, but it is something
>>> important the
>>> end-users that recently had to become a RIPE NCC member, to just
>>> receive an
>>> small block of /22.
>>
>> No, they *chose* to join RIPE as an LIR, because it was cheaper than
>> buying
>> the IPs they need on the open market. And you're now asking for it to
>> be even
>> cheaper.
>>
>>> Can anyone from RIPE NCC tell me how many members are holding just an
>>> /22?
>>
>> The data is published, I can't be bothered to write a script to figure
>> it out,
>> but it wouldn't be hard.
>>
>>     http://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/stats/membership/alloclist.txt
>>
>> Simon
>>
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