[members-discuss] Spam from Cyprian Nica / IP Broker Limited (Re: Inquiry regarding availability for subnet x.x.x.0 - y.y.y.255
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Ciprian Nica
office at ip-broker.uk
Mon Oct 10 17:25:53 CEST 2016
Yes, I have used the specific contact details for the specific block. How can anyone get in contact with the user of a specific block of IPs if not by using the contact details listed for that block ? I didn't deny that, I only said that I didn't dig for a bunch of e-mails to send a spam advertising some service or product. I specifically contacted the listed persons for each specific block that I've found to be unused. Once again I apologize if sending you a single e-mail for a specific block that is not in use really causes so much trouble. On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 6:20 PM, Nick Hilliard <nick at netability.ie> wrote: > Cyprian, > > You used a specific email address that has only ever been used by me in > the RIPE database. If you have used it, and particularly if you have used > it in association with a specific range of RIPE NCC-assigned ipv4 > addresses, it means that this information has been pulled either directly > or indirectly from the RIPE database. > > Nick > > Ciprian Nica <office at ip-broker.uk> > 10 October 2016 at 16:12 > Hi Nick, > > First of all, I have not used the ripe database contact info to send > marketing, advertising or anything to promote a service or product. > > I apologize to anyone that was disturbed by my e-mail. I have tried not to > send any duplicates and limited as much as possible any discomfort. I'm not > doing this on a regular basis and probably you've never got an e-mail from > me before. > > There are 43 million IP addresses which are allocated in RIPE region and > are not announced in the global BGP table. Of course there are some which > are not announced on purpose and to those I apologize again. But there are > many IP addresses which are not in use and the only way to get in touch > with the users is by contacting them using obviously publicly available > contact information. > > I have e-mailed contacts for specific subnets that were checked to be not > advertised. How else should we get the IPs to the market ? There's no tool > provided by RIPE or any other solution to push this huge amount to the > market. Maybe some are concerned that bringing up the unused space will > lower the prices. Well, I am not supporting those who sit on huge amount of > IPs and seek prices in the 10+ EUR range. I really hope IPv6 will move > quicker and in a couple of years no IPv4 will have value so while there is > still some demand, we're doing our best to find the supply, to dig it up to > the surface. > > So, once again at this moment there are over 43 million IPs in the RIPE > region only that are not advertised in the BGP table. The total amount of > IPs transferred over the past 4 years in the RIPE region is ~27 million. > > I apologize if my method was too extreme and have upset some people but I > promise not to bother you again. Most likely there are people who just sit > on the resources and don't care about other's needs. We can't seem to be > able to lift their butts off them. > > Have a nice week, > Ciprian > > > > > Nick Hilliard <nick at netability.ie> > 10 October 2016 at 15:20 > > I've received several copies of the template email below about several > different address ranges, all sent to email addresses culled from the > RIPE Database. They all appear to originate from Cyprian Nica / IP > Broker Ltd. > > In order to be listed as an IP broker on the RIPE web site, it is > necessary to sign the "Recognised IPv4 Transfer Broker Agreement". This > includes the following text: > > > The Broker shall adhere to the relevant RIPE Policies and RIPE NCC > procedural documents, [...] > > The RIPE Database T&Cs include the following text: > > > Users may not use the RIPE Database or the data contained therein for > advertising, direct marketing, marketing research or similar purposes. > > Could the RIPE NCC kindly confirm whether or not spamming contact email > address gleaned from the RIPE DB is a violation of the Recognised IPv4 > Transfer Broker Agreement? > > If this isn't a violation, could the Board consider specifically adding > an anti-spamming term into the IP Broker T&Cs listing? > > Nick > > Ciprian Nica wrote: > > Dear Sirs, > > My name is Ciprian Nica and I'm the CEO of IP Broker Ltd, one of the > first IPv4 Address brokers in the RIPE region. I am contacting you > regarding the block of 256 IPv4 addresses (from x.x.x.0 to > 'y.y.y.255') which according to our data seems to be not in use as > they are not announced in the global BGP table. > > If you no longer need these IP addresses then it is a good moment to > sell them. The global IPv6 deployment rate is around 15% while in USA > is around 30% so in a couple of years IPv4 might become worthless > again. > > Of course that besides the subnet mentioned above there might be some > other blocks that you might not need. Please let us know all the > blocks of IP addresses that you no longer need and we will do our > best to sell them in a fast and secure way. > > Thank you, > Ciprian Nica > CEO > IP Broker Limited > t: +44 20 339 339 91 > > > > ---- > If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss > mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the general page:https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/ > > Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From here, you can add or remove addresses. > > ------------------------------ > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/attachments/20161010/27b6ce70/attachment.html>
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