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Hello,

I think IP addresses as like radio frequencies (spectrum), it's limited.
You can't own/hold frequencies without using that, you need to give back to
national organisation what manages that, to allocate new companies, and you
can't sell that also. Why RIPE/ARIN/etc can't do this with IPv4 addresses?
I not really see the difference.

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2016-02-17 14:50 GMT+01:00 Aleksey Bulgakov <aleksey at fast-telecom.net>:

> What is bad to sell IPs? You tell the same, if someone buy some gold or
> oil and burn it to increase the price and make prifit, but the Members are
> still receiving the IPs. What is the difference will they receive IPs from
> the RIPE NCC directly or anyone will sell it?
>
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>
> 17.02.2016, 16:38, "Thomas Mangin" <thomas.mangin at exa-networks.co.uk>:
> > Hi,
> >
> > So .. replying to myself :wink:
> >
> > Proposed solution:
> >
> >>  You make a new lir to get a /22 ok, then you cannot sell the ip
> >>  address
> >>  space.
> >>  If the lir is for whatever reason closed the ip address space should
> >>  be
> >>  requested back.
> >>  Nobody will create a new lir for a /22 and pay the fees required if
> >>  the
> >>  address space given it`s tied to that lir, it will just be to
> >>  expensive.
> >
> > I would love to live in a world where this solution works.
> >
> > When you forbid a product which has customer (buying IP space, drugs,
> > other) all you are doing is moving the problem to an un-regulated market
> > where the buyer (the innocent network who NEEDS the IP space and is down
> > the wall) is going to be abused (US prohibition / war on drugs).
> >
> > While I morally totally agree with the principle, I can not see how it
> > can be applied in a way which does not create more problems than it
> > fixes.
> >
> > Thomas
> >
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