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MikroVPS
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Wed Feb 17 18:17:49 CET 2016
Hello, I think IP addresses as like radio frequencies (spectrum), it's limited. You can't own/hold frequencies without using that, you need to give back to national organisation what manages that, to allocate new companies, and you can't sell that also. Why RIPE/ARIN/etc can't do this with IPv4 addresses? I not really see the difference. *Köszönettel:* Csárdi-Braunstein János *Email:* info at mikrovps.hu *Telefon:* +3694200210 [image: facebook] <https://www.facebook.com/Mikrovps> [image: twitter] <https://twitter.com/MikroVPS> [image: google plus] <https://plus.google.com/+MikrovpsHu> [image: linkedin] <https://www.linkedin.com/company/mikrovps> 2016-02-17 14:50 GMT+01:00 Aleksey Bulgakov <aleksey at fast-telecom.net>: > What is bad to sell IPs? You tell the same, if someone buy some gold or > oil and burn it to increase the price and make prifit, but the Members are > still receiving the IPs. What is the difference will they receive IPs from > the RIPE NCC directly or anyone will sell it? > > ----- > Best regards, > Aleksey Bulgakov > FastTelecom, CEO > Tel.: +7 926 6908729 > > > 17.02.2016, 16:38, "Thomas Mangin" <thomas.mangin at exa-networks.co.uk>: > > Hi, > > > > So .. replying to myself :wink: > > > > Proposed solution: > > > >> You make a new lir to get a /22 ok, then you cannot sell the ip > >> address > >> space. > >> If the lir is for whatever reason closed the ip address space should > >> be > >> requested back. > >> Nobody will create a new lir for a /22 and pay the fees required if > >> the > >> address space given it`s tied to that lir, it will just be to > >> expensive. > > > > I would love to live in a world where this solution works. > > > > When you forbid a product which has customer (buying IP space, drugs, > > other) all you are doing is moving the problem to an un-regulated market > > where the buyer (the innocent network who NEEDS the IP space and is down > > the wall) is going to be abused (US prohibition / war on drugs). > > > > While I morally totally agree with the principle, I can not see how it > > can be applied in a way which does not create more problems than it > > fixes. > > > > Thomas > > > > ---- > > If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss > > mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the > general page: > > https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/ > > > > Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From > here, you can add or remove addresses. > > ---- > If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss > mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the > general page: > https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/ > > Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From > here, you can add or remove addresses. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/attachments/20160217/0d7d255a/attachment.html>
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