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surely your solution would be to get your own LIR rather than “rent” from another if you need that much space?
Anthony Somerset,
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> On 17 Feb,2016, at 16:45, Claudiu Foleanu <claudiu.foleanu at thorpanel.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Markus,
> 
> The lir send`s a document to the company in wich says "As per end user
> contract signed you have 3 months to stop using resources" and after this
> the resources are sold.
> It happend to a lot (and i do mean a lot) of companies in Romania. I think
> that Romania is number one in number of resources (ipv4 address space) sold.
> And as i said in my previous email most of them have been in use. I have a
> /22 witch is in IRAN now. Sold to an Iranian telecom company by the lir. I
> have not received any previous notification. Our callcenter just started
> getting calls about internet not working. We did not imagine that someone
> will do something like this.
> We addressed this issue with ripe-ncc at that time and the reply was find a
> new lir we cannot help in the matter.
> We should ask a report for tickets created from Romania regarding address
> space from Romania with the same issue.
> 
> Best regards,
> Claudiu Foleanu
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net] On Behalf Of
> Markus
> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 4:37 PM
> To: members-discuss at ripe.net; Claudiu Foleanu
> Subject: Re: [members-discuss] [comms] [ncc-announce] [news] RIPE NCC
> Members and Multiple
> 
> Hi Claudiu,
> 
> Am 17.02.2016 um 15:26 schrieb Claudiu Foleanu:
>> No it`s not bad to sell ip`s. It`s bad that the people are abusing the 
>> system. It`s bad that small companies that had a /22 a /24 etc.. have 
>> the resources allocated taken away, and sold for profit.
> [...]
> 
> can you elaborate on how these small companies have resources taken away
> from them? I can't imagine how that works. Who forces these companies to
> give their resources up?
> 
> I've noticed that a company called "IPv4 Management SRL" (www.ip.ro) from
> your country is selling a lot of smaller IPv4 blocks like all the time. It
> seems like they are the predominant seller in the RIPE market judging from
> <https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/resource-transfers-and-mergers/tra
> nsfers/ipv4/ipv4-transfer-statistics>
> 
> Do they have something to do with what you described?
> 
> Cheers
> Markus
> 
> 
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