[members-discuss] Discussion on LIRs from Donetsk Area

Hello Alexey, all,

Please allow me to comment on the relevant procedures.

1. Whilst we cannot prevent people from submitting fraudulent documents
to us, we do follow extensive due diligence processes, which include
validation checks, in order to confirm the actual existence of an entity
or person.

Should the provision of untruthful information be uncovered, we would
commence proceedings to terminate that account in accordance with the
procedural document "Closure of Members, Deregistration of Internet
Resources and Legacy Internet Resources" available at:
https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-640#a122g

However, I would like to reiterate Axel's confirmation that the case
under discussion has been carefully reviewed and that we requested and
received the documentation required to ensure the existence of the
organisation and to prove the identity of the person signing the
Standard Service Agreement.

2. There is no policy or procedure requiring a RIPE NCC member's postal
address and phone number to be in the same country. Members can provide
any contact information they choose as long as it can be used to contact
them for administrative purposes.

If you would like to report incorrect contact information in the RIPE
Database, you can make use of the RIPE NCC Reporting procedure:
https://www.ripe.net/support/contact/reporting-procedure

Please let me know if you have any further questions.

Kind regards,

Laura Cobley
RIPE NCC Customer Services Manager


On 30/06/15 22:39, Samorukov,Alexey wrote:
> Thank you for a quick reply and comments. It is good that procedures were followed, however 2 questions are still unclear for me. 
> 
> 1. Did you made any efforts to validate submitted documents? As i mentioned - i cant find matched records in the registries. Does it mean that RIPE NCC will accept any possibly spoofed documents sent by members? 
> 
> 2. We should respect the privacy of others, and in this case I have a question regarding 
> data quality in RIPE DB, not a membership info:
> 
> inetnum:        185.106.128.0 - 185.106.131.255
> netname:        RU-DNR-20150626
> 
> organisation:   ORG-OISI2-RIPE
> org-name:       "Center of Internet services in DNR"
> org-type:       LIR
> address:        Shevchenko str. 31
> address:        83000
> address:        Donetsk
> address:        RUSSIAN FEDERATION
> 
> 
> With the high probability the contact data is invalid, and that mean the violation of
> section 4.0 of IPv4 allocation policy (RIPE-643):
> 
>> Only allocations and assignments registered in the RIPE Database are considered
>> valid. Registration of objects in the database is the final step in making an allocation
>> or assignment. Registration data (range, contact information, status etc.) must be correct
>> at all times (i.e. they have to be maintained).
> 
> Did RIPE NCC consider the contact information as valid? Is there a procedure to report wrong
> contacts?
> 
> 
> 
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