[members-discuss] My Question To All LIR Members

I depend on Maxmind using data obtained from a central registry. If all 
ip tracing websites created their own databases with information they 
made up, we wouldn't bother with the RIPE database any more because it 
would become obsolete. We depend on ip tracing websites to gather their 
information from authority sites, not the garbage they produce on their 
own. And I'm only interested, as well as my end-users, of seeing ip 
information that I've registered in the appropriate places. Simply 
stating that "we're only interested in end-user locations" rather than 
ip registration data, sits badly in my mind. And it has also caught the 
attention of the RIPE NCC itself, which just sent me the following email 
regarding this situation:

Dear Jared,

Thank you for your email.

We value your concern about correct registration details for internet 
resources.

However the RIPE NCC has no authority on how private companies compile 
their data and how much they take information from the RIPE database in 
account.
Did you contacted MaxMind directly and informed them about the 
mismatching information they provide? Because finally if information are 
incorrect then this is not only damaging companies like yours but also 
the reputation of the providers of this data.

And I will forward your observation to my colleagues from the 
stat.ripe.net team as there for Geolocation we are using data from 
MaxMind.
https://stat.ripe.net/193.0.20.0#tabId=geo

Then my colleagues will check if there could be any conflicting 
information in our own tools.

-- 
Thank you again for bring up this topic.

Kind regards,

Marco Schmidt
RIPE NCC


On 2014-05-28 09:52, Alfredo Sola wrote:
>> That thought was kind of pointless after they refused to help. I've
>> spent hours on their site manually updating all of their inaccuracies
>> over the past few years. From one month to the next they can screw up
>> entire ranges with their monthly updates. My networks do not run 
>> proxies
>> period. I run vpn services and remote desktops, but never proxies. And
>> vpn services cannot be classified the same as open proxies as they are
>> totally different.
> 
> 	I think your issue is more a business model problem than a registry
> or IP problem.
> 
> 	What you are saying is that you depend on Maxmind providing the
> location of your VPN servers / remote desktop servers rather than the
> location of users computers connected to them. Maxmind, on the other
> hand, is saying that they provide the location of users if they can,
> or will mark the location as unknown.
> 
> 	So your business model depends on Maxmind agreeing to provide to
> their customers something which is not what they pay to obtain. And
> they refuse. I personally don't think they can be blamed for that, but
> that's something between your company and Maxmind. And nothing in this
> has to do with RIPE.