[members-discuss] Cogent uses RIPE DB for spam
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oskar at cetex.se
oskar at cetex.se
Fri Jun 13 16:12:10 CEST 2014
I agree. It depends on how they get the data. If they're manually searching the database and calling people they find they're investing some time to find the correct person and I believe that shouldn't be a big issue, but it may be annoying for those affected. If on the other hand someone automates the extraction and gives the information to a callcenter I'd be a bit disturbed by their tactics. But i guess hiding the information so it gets trickier to automate extraction would have wider consequences. Automated DMCA notifications / copyright infringement notifications / spam and other weird stuff where there isn't a person on the other end could probably decrease a bit. Oskar Stenman 2014-06-13 15:33 skrev Dominik Nowacki: > Oskar, problem here is that they are real people who call, they can > also solve captchas. > > > With Kind Regards, > Dominik Nowacki > > Clouvider Limited is a limited company registered in England and > Wales. Registered number: 08750969. Registered office: 88 Wood > Street, > London, United Kingdom, EC2V 7RS. Please note that Clouvider Limited > may monitor email traffic data and also the content of email for the > purposes of security and staff training. This message contains > confidential information and is intended only for the intended > recipient. If you do not believe you are the intended recipient you > should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify > abuse at clouvider.net of this e-mail immediately by e-mail if you have > received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your > system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or > error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, > destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Clouvider > Limited nor any of its employees therefore does not accept liability > for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which > arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required > please request a hard-copy version. > > -----Original Message----- > From: members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net > [mailto:members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net] On Behalf Of oskar at cetex.se > Sent: 13 June 2014 14:25 > To: members-discuss at ripe.net > Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Cogent uses RIPE DB for spam > > Or implement some kind of captcha for anonymous requests on the web > so programmatic mining without a person-object and a registered > maintainer becomes trickier, and remove email / phone from the files > on the ftp-site. > > If someone wants to get in touch they just have to solve the captcha > and the information will be available. > If someone wants to get data from CLI or automatic they would have to > provide user-info when they do their request, or get a response with > such data removed. > > I have no idea how large the repercursions of doing this would be > though. I guess this knowledge exists on the list though. :) > > Oskar Stenman > > 2014-06-13 14:31 skrev Mag. Matthias Šubik: >> Hello, >> On 13.06.2014, at 14:12, Andrei Kushnireuski wrote: >> ... >>> For me it's very bad practice for same company like Cogent to use >>> RIPE DB for spamming. Did anybody receive same calls/emails based >>> on >>> RIPE DB info? >> >> This is true for a lot of companies that use provision based >> payment. >> As others said before, representatives change, and each of them has >> a >> 'new' and 'bright' idea to find new customers. >> >> The only thing that helps is not to respond to such offers, or >> complaining to their headquarters. Setting remarks in RIPE-DB is >> next >> to useless, as they employ mostly bad coded scripts to parse only >> the >> fields they need. Moving the telephone number or post-dial PIN to >> the >> remarks helps, as network admins tend to read full whois output, >> instead of parsed fields in excel. >> >> Matthias >> >> >> ---- >> If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC >> members-discuss >> mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the >> general page: >> https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/ >> >> Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". >> From here, you can add or remove addresses. > > ---- > If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss > mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the > general page: > https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/ > > Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". > From here, you can add or remove addresses.
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