[members-discuss] Cogent uses RIPE DB for spam

Oskar, problem here is that they are real people who call, they can also solve captchas.


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From: members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net [mailto:members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net] On Behalf Of oskar at cetex.se
Sent: 13 June 2014 14:25
To: members-discuss at ripe.net
Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Cogent uses RIPE DB for spam

Or implement some kind of captcha for anonymous requests on the web so programmatic mining without a person-object and a registered maintainer becomes trickier, and remove email / phone from the files on the ftp-site.

If someone wants to get in touch they just have to solve the captcha and the information will be available.
If someone wants to get data from CLI or automatic they would have to provide user-info when they do their request, or get a response with such data removed.

I have no idea how large the repercursions of doing this would be though. I guess this knowledge exists on the list though. :)

Oskar Stenman

2014-06-13 14:31 skrev Mag. Matthias Šubik:
> Hello,
> On 13.06.2014, at 14:12, Andrei Kushnireuski wrote:
> ...
>> For me it's very bad practice for same company like Cogent to use 
>> RIPE DB for spamming. Did anybody receive same calls/emails based on 
>> RIPE DB info?
>
> This is true for a lot of companies that use provision based payment.
> As others said before, representatives change, and each of them has a 
> 'new' and 'bright' idea to find new customers.
>
> The only thing that helps is not to respond to such offers, or 
> complaining to their headquarters. Setting remarks in RIPE-DB is next 
> to useless, as they employ mostly bad coded scripts to parse only the 
> fields they need. Moving the telephone number or post-dial PIN to the 
> remarks helps, as network admins tend to read full whois output, 
> instead of parsed fields in excel.
>
> Matthias
>
>
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