[members-discuss] Marketing? Really?

On Wed, 23 Oct 2013, Kurt Erik Lindqvist wrote:

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> On 23 okt 2013, at 10:26, Daniel Stolpe <stolpe at resilans.se> wrote:
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>> On Tue, 22 Oct 2013, Yiorgos Adamopoulos wrote:
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>>> ???? 22/10/2013 8:39 ??, ?/? J?nis Jaunoš?ns ??????:
>>>> I like atlas and labs :(
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>>> Atlas and labs are things that I expect from RIPE NCC because of our
>>> membership.
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>> How long have you been a member? Maybe new members are used to this playground business from the start and the older members are more sceptic.
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>> This is more of a principal question than a financial one. With all new members there is probably room in the budget for a lot of not really important things at the same time as the membership fees go down.
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>> But in principle, the Réseaux IP Européens should be about European IP resources.
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> While I have some healthy skepticism against some RIPE NCC projects, and 
> some of the ways they came to be, I think it's also fair to point out 
> that the activities of the RIPE NCC is presented in the RIPE NCC 
> activity plan, and that they as of the last one actually does a better 
> job of breaking up costs in it.

Absolutely. Thanks to some Russian shouting, if I remember things 
correctly. ;-)

> If you, me or anyone else have concerns or opinions on it, the right 
> thing is to post comments on it when it is presented to members every 
> year. Unfortunately the posting if normally comes with a very quiet 
> mailing list. What we should all be doing during the year though is to 
> compare activities to it and provide feedback on how well (or not) we 
> think it's executed.

I agree. But I rarely see any debate about this, so if someone has an 
opinion, it is not obvious when or where to speak up.


> That is partly why the NCC Services WG was created once upon a time, and 
> we have (but rarely) had feedback in there on the performance of the 
> activities of the NCC. This mailinglist is of course also a good 
> channel, but I think we need to accept that the NCC does what is in the 
> activity plan approved by it's members....

Yes. If the majority is happy, then we are done.


Cheers,

Daniel

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