[members-discuss] [Ticket#2012072401002498] Probably Free /8 networks in RIPE region
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Sven Olaf Kamphuis
sven at cb3rob.net
Fri Jul 27 14:32:37 CEST 2012
there is ofcourse an option to have some people that are desperate for ipv4 group up, approach those companies (that american insurance company which holds a /8 as well) and just pay them to manage their ranges (that is, turn them into a profit for the holders and everyone involved). outside of the ripe ncc. just start an external organisation that just rents (flat-fee) or buys those ranges from the original holders, then pimps them out to its members. quite sure mercedes benz doesn't need a /8 themselves :P (daimler ag is their old name btw - they didn't even change it when they renamed it back to mercedes benz ag ;) as corporations seem to like 'whatever makes them money without much work' most of them will probably take the offer. On Fri, 27 Jul 2012, Gert Doering wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 03:11:45AM +0400, LeaderTelecom Ltd. wrote: >> Here is some examples why current charging scheme and new draft is not so good >> for Members and why we have to move to charging scheme based on count of used >> IPs. >> >> Case 1. Inetnum: 15.0.0.0/8 (16 777 216 IPs ). ASSIGNED PI. Hewlett-Packard >> Company. > > This was not handed out by the RIPE NCC, so is completely irrelevant for > any discussions about the RIPE NCC charging scheme. > > (And it's not covered by RIPE address policies either) > >> Case 2. Inetnum: 53.0.0.0/8 (16 777 216 IPs ). ASSIGNED PI. Daimler AG. > > This was not handed out by the RIPE NCC, so is completely irrelevant for > any discussions about the RIPE NCC charging scheme. > > (And it's not covered by RIPE address policies either) > >> Case 3. Inetnum: 51.0.0.0/8 (16 777 216 IPs ). EARLY-REGISTRATION. UK > > This was not handed out by the RIPE NCC, so is completely irrelevant for > any discussions about the RIPE NCC charging scheme. > > (And it's not covered by RIPE address policies either) > >> Case 4. Inetnum:151.3.0.0 - 151.84.255.255 ( 5 373 952 IPs). >> EARLY-REGISTRATION. WIND Telecomunicazioni S.p.A. >> a) For free (legacy). > > This was not handed out by the RIPE NCC, so is completely irrelevant for > any discussions about the RIPE NCC charging scheme. > > (And it's not covered by RIPE address policies either) > > (Are you starting to see a pattern?) > > Gert Doering > -- NetMaster > -- > have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? > > SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard > Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann > D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) > Tel: +49 (89) 32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279 > > ---- > If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss > mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the general page: > https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/view > > Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From here, you can add or remove addresses. >
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