[members-discuss] [Ticket#2012072401002498] Probably Free /8 networks in RIPE region

there is ofcourse an option to have some people that are desperate for 
ipv4 group up, approach those companies (that american insurance company 
which holds a /8 as well) and just pay them to manage their ranges (that 
is, turn them into a profit for the holders and everyone involved).

outside of the ripe ncc.

just start an external organisation that just rents (flat-fee) or buys 
those ranges from the original holders, then pimps them out to its members.

quite sure mercedes benz doesn't need a /8 themselves :P (daimler ag is 
their old name btw - they didn't even change it when they renamed it back 
to mercedes benz ag ;)

as corporations seem to like 'whatever makes them money without much work' 
most of them will probably take the offer.


On Fri, 27 Jul 2012, Gert Doering wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 03:11:45AM +0400, LeaderTelecom Ltd. wrote:
>> Here is some examples why current charging scheme and new draft is not so good
>> for Members and why we have to move to charging scheme based on count of used
>> IPs. 
>>
>> Case 1. Inetnum: 15.0.0.0/8 (16 777 216 IPs ). ASSIGNED PI. Hewlett-Packard
>> Company.
>
> This was not handed out by the RIPE NCC, so is completely irrelevant for
> any discussions about the RIPE NCC charging scheme.
>
> (And it's not covered by RIPE address policies either)
>
>> Case 2. Inetnum: 53.0.0.0/8 (16 777 216 IPs ). ASSIGNED PI. Daimler AG.
>
> This was not handed out by the RIPE NCC, so is completely irrelevant for
> any discussions about the RIPE NCC charging scheme.
>
> (And it's not covered by RIPE address policies either)
>
>> Case 3. Inetnum: 51.0.0.0/8 (16 777 216 IPs ). EARLY-REGISTRATION. UK
>
> This was not handed out by the RIPE NCC, so is completely irrelevant for
> any discussions about the RIPE NCC charging scheme.
>
> (And it's not covered by RIPE address policies either)
>
>> Case 4. Inetnum:151.3.0.0 - 151.84.255.255 ( 5 373 952 IPs).
>> EARLY-REGISTRATION. WIND Telecomunicazioni S.p.A. 
>>    a) For free (legacy).
>
> This was not handed out by the RIPE NCC, so is completely irrelevant for
> any discussions about the RIPE NCC charging scheme.
>
> (And it's not covered by RIPE address policies either)
>
> (Are you starting to see a pattern?)
>
> Gert Doering
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