[members-discuss] [Ticket#2012072401002498] Probably Free /8 networks in RIPE region

I totally agree. The current rules - what made by us (members) makes 
even difficulty (maybe impossible) for the providers to get new IPv4 
resources.
On the other side, many of big providers/organisations have so much 
unused IPv4 resource, and even wasting them.
For example a big local player gives a /24 for a leased line customer 
who really needs only fragment ( max of /26).

Since we (the small and big players) have one vote per membership, i 
would to think of changing the rules, on making available of take back 
the unused
resources. Also, the PI allocation should count to the members PA 
allocation together.

Another thing on IPv4: if there is not so much pressure on big providers 
for changing their access (DSL, cable) networks to IPv6 (because the 
already have allocated but unassigned space) they will not move quickly.
If they must, they will (i bet). If they can save money on giving back 
IPv4 pools and change to IPv6 (and maybe do NAT for users who not 
(software)upgrade their CPE to IPv6 compatible) - they can allocate 
those money for workhours and NAT devices.
The resources what got back from those pools, can go back for 
re-allocation or servers side (so they will not ask also for it).

That is my 2 cent.
I hope at least smaller operators agree.

>> I don’t believe that membership charging scheme should be influenced in any way by the “IPv4 conservationists”. Member fees are for member services, and nothing else. Yes, the bigger players should contribute *slightly* more, so we can keep the fees competitive for new entrants (more members = better for everyone), and there can be ways to “encourage” fair play.
>> Now let’s hear no more of this “charge-per-IP” nonsense…
> Great organization,  great ip resources, great income...
> Well, let's for commercial and not commercial organizations with ip addresses up to 1000-2000 for example will not charge a fee.
> If you need more than 1000-2000 ip addresses, you understand and ready to pay, otherwise you will save you ip resources with strategies nat translation and port forwarding.
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