[members-discuss] [Ticket#2012072401002498] Probably Free /8 networks in RIPE region

and yes, by all means, go to your cfo and tell him he is running your 
company into the wall... preferably at a shareholder meeting :P

not having working ipv6 in 2012 is just utter incompetence.


On Fri, 27 Jul 2012, LeaderTelecom Ltd. wrote:

> Dear Erik,
>
> > I spoke with someone from Surfnet a while ago (they also have a /8 and a
> whole block of 16 bit ASN
>> pre-RIPE) and on they question if they would return space to RIPE, their
> answer was :
>  > <quote>Why prolong the inevitable, we have been doing v6 for 15 years
> already. Everyone should do
>> the same ...</end quote>
>> That reasoning is very true and I do agree with it.
>
> Yes, from technical point of view it is excelent answer and probably ideal way
> for internet. But when you goes to CFO and tell that you need new equipment -
> he will ask reason why you need additional investments? All works well. You
> can tell stories about IPv4 and IPv6... But from finance point of view it
> doesn't make any sense. Run IPv6 and what next? It will give you new
> customers? Or current cusomers will pay mode money? NOOOO! It is just extra
> expenses. It time when each company try to cut costs impossible to invest
> money in word "IPv6". But! If cost IPv4 will grow - then it will be very
> simple for companies to understund that chaeper will be migrate to IPv6. 
>   
>  > That is also why a charging scheme based on v4 is short lived and
> out-dated by the time it comes
>> into action. The first RIPE invoice based on it, will be when the resource
> pool is already in the final /8.
>> And that pool won't magically grow back above it ... 
>  > A charging scheme based on budget / nr of members is my prediction where
> things should go for the
>> above mentioned reasons, why based it on a resource or charge for a resource
> that is gone ... To have
>> this discussion again in one or two years ? Please spare me ... 
>
> But RIPE must support servers, software and etc which support IPv4. And all
> this expenses must pay LIRs? When IPv4 will finished and new LIRs will get
> only IPv6 - why they must pay a huge money for support IPv4 when they will
> provide only IPv6?
>  
>  --
> Alexey Ivanov
> LeaderTelecom Ltd.
>