[members-discuss] Charging scheme discussion

Hi Tomas

> Hi!
>
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Paolo Di Francesco
> <paolo.difrancesco at level7.it <mailto:paolo.difrancesco at level7.it>> wrote:
>
>
>     2) the bigger is the LIR, i.e. the more revenues it gets in the telco
>     market, the more it should pay. This is not so related to "resources
>     consumption" but to a more logic and ethical issue regarding the duties
>     that each of us should have in front of the community. I do not see why
>     a small company or a start up should pay as much as a Telco whose
>     revenues are billions per year. If we state that "we pay all the same"
>     then we are not talking of a community, we are going against the basic
>     idea of a community where each one should contribute for what you have.
>
>
> It is communism or socialism or whatever...

you forgot to mention Christian :)

 > Anyway I do not agree that
> somebody is better than I am (or my company is) to pay less than I have
> to pay for the same services to the regional monopoly.
>

in term of "service" I do not agree that it's the same service. A small 
LIR does not continously request different address spaces (which now 
takes time to be approved by RIPE) or the number of objects allocated 
into the DB.

> (Please note that I work for an organization which has the RIPE NCC
> contribution category Small.)
>

Put in simple words: the lower is the fee for small and extra small the 
more benefits we will get as Europeans.

Paying the same fee as a national operator is paying, does not sound 
like a good idea to me for the creation of new ideas and to keep the 
market as much open as we can to innovation.

By the way, I would say that sounds more communist the fact that the 
price should be the same for each LIR.

Now talking as Capitalist: the bigger is your company the more interest 
you have in order to keep the service up and running. Now considering 
that the fees are used to make RIPE survive I would say:

ok let's close RIPE and let's see who is going to cray more because 
there is no more IPv4/IPv6 management in Europe: a small LIR or a huge 
Telco?

That's why a bigger LIR should contribute MORE than a small one.

As I said, just my 2 Euro cents



> Tomas
>
> --
> S pozdravem,
> Tomáš Hlaváček
> -------------------------------------------------
> IGNUM s.r.o. | Vinohradská 190 | Praha 3 | 130 61
> Tel: +420 296 332 211 | Fax: +420 296 332 222
> Tel: +420 604 111 111 | Mobil: +420 603 111 111
> Web: http://www.ignum.cz | http://www.domena.cz
>
>
>
> ----
> If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss
> mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the general page:
> https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/view
>
> Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From here, you can add or remove addresses.
>


-- 


Ing. Paolo Di Francesco

Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale

Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo

C.F. e P.IVA  05940050825
Fax : +39-091-8772072
assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432
web: http://www.level7.it