[members-discuss] Proposed 2012 Charging scheme, Board comments

Hi Erik,

Am 03.10.2011 09:26, schrieb Erik Bais:
> Hi Fred,
>
>> Did anyone made a calculation on how RIPE would benefit from a
>> significant increase in members during 2012?
>
> We are probably in the depletion phase for v4 by 2012. So each /21 that is handed out to a new LIR is gone from the last /8.
>
> Why should we give that last /8 away for membership fees at just 500 euro while everyone else pays between 1800 and 3000 a year ?
> There is no way to request PI anymore when v4 is depleted.. but that doesn't mean that we should hand out LIR's for that same (or almost similar) price as cost is probably one of the only reasons why certain companies opt for PI vs a LIR status atm.

Thats I told. I know a company who have a /22 PI-Space. He must pay only 
50 EUR / year. A LIR must pay 750 for that range. Sorry but is this real 
?? Where is democracy that each part must pay the same for what he gets ??

Maybe better to include the PI space in the scheme with 50% discount as 
they don't can use courses/etc. ?? RIPE was thinking about that ??


>> More members would avoid increase in membership fees, but this is
>> actually hold back due to lack of IPv4 and the backdoor trade which
>> start to flourish wildly ...
>
> I just finished a request for a /22 PI for a customer last week through RIPE. As long as the pool isn't finished yet, the only thing that flourishes wildly is the media speculation on IP trading ... That will / might change later, but currently it isn't the case.
> I haven't had anyone come up to me offering X amount for the IP's we have in use.. did you ?

Yes we must do like same for a /23 for a new customer because now 
everybody knows that IPs are rare. We got only one SPAM mail where they 
bid for 8x/24 in one block but nothing true behind.

Best regards,
     Alexander Schoberl
       SPEEDNIC S.R.L.

>
> Erik Bais
>
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