[members-discuss] Surprise on renew fees

From: members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net [mailto:members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net] On Behalf Of Lu Heng
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 3:41 AM
To: paolo.difrancesco at level7.it
Cc: members-discuss at ripe.net
Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Surprise on renew fees

> Well, if the new 2012 charging scheme was processed, then it will be based on amount of resource we are using.
The 2012 had several bad and quite unfair flaws in many sides of its preparing procedure, its structure and the undercarpet considerations - that is why it didn't see support.


>if IP's price goes up, it not only benefits the new comer who got the IP but also
>the old ones who already had the IP. If everybody is holding something has same value,
>why one party should be paying more while another should be paying less.
It's not so easy. I think you do not understand the scheme correctly. "old" LIRs if they want to get a block would be counted in the same way as newcomers for the block, so the fairness of getting addresses is better in the scheme. On the other hand - if the minimal block in "old" times was /16 and the then-new LIR got it and it is still enough or even not used even close to fully - it's unfair to punish the LIR. Many best practices at the time was not so flexible as now - and it led to "waste" in modern point of view, but it's very difficult to change the assignments now (initial criteria is still met) - why the LIR should suffer?

Vladislav Potapov
Ru.iiat