[members-discuss] Surprise on renew fees

Hi Tonino,

>> Its the same case with the oil prices, oil is runnig out and will
> > become more expensive, also situations is different countries
>> (political, natural disasters) affect the oil price. Do you have the
>> same complaint when you fill up your car at the gasstation when the
>> price has gone up?
>
>When I fill up my car I do not pay gasoline depending on the year I bought my car.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tonino

Maybe not based on the year you bought the car but most current car engines are far more efficient than a Pontiac Firebird with a V8 engine from 1969.
Obviously you can debate if you want to go for a gasoline guzzler like a Firebird with a V8 or a more current model like a Hummer for instance. But you could also decide to move to something more fuel efficient like some kind of Hybrid.
And simple economics show that with the fuel prices going up, more people will most likely go to a Hybrid like solution to avoid or lower that cost and the market for the Hummer will move away. (And yes I know that they already stopped building the Hummer.)

So back on the topic, I work for a small LIR that was also upgraded (from Small to Medium).  The question is will having more IP's increase the revenue (or revenue changes)?
This particular LIR started early 2010, has 2 v4 prefixes and 1 v6 and an AS. Not having those resources, would not allow us to grow or do the business.

Is this unfair as 'older' LIR don't get upgraded so fast?  ( Besides that fact that I personally don't like a discussion where people talk about what is unfair because they missed the boat in the late 90's or early 00's and are hoping to get a benefit because they started later in the game ... )

I don't think that the current system is biased or unfair, as after 2 years we're upgraded to Medium and an ISP company that I worked for in 2002-2005, with a similar number of resources, is also still a Medium LIR.
We're having similar number of total resources (in total between a /17 and /16 in the number of v4 addresses).  So after 2 years, we are on a similar cost structure (638 euro per quarter) as a company that started about 12 years ago.
Requiring the resources, means that there is a business case and that you have the customers for it.

Personally I would say, skip the resource counting. Everybody is equal regardless of size or year of establishment and everyone pays the same membership fee (which in that case would end up around 2450 euro a year for each LIR.)

Regards,
Erik Bais