[lir-wg] ripe allocation 82.0.0.0/8 and arin allocation 69.0.0.0/8

On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, leo vegoda wrote:

> The RIPE NCC can not guarantee whether any particular route will
> be accepted by any network operator.

Thats a problem.  Question - if one of your customers discovers that an
allocation does not route can they have it replaced with one that does.

I understand you don't guarantee any particular allocation will route.
And in the old days when the charges were minimal for IP allocation - well
one could reluctantly accept that.  However - under the new policies you
boys are charging these people hefty bucks and that means liability and I
don't think it prudent to hide behind the routing claim.  I have
documented over 15 cases in which the 69.0.0.0/8 fiasco has cost these
people clients and business that went elsewhere.

Have also documented situations in which these recent allocation have
resulted in the renumbering of networks out of 69.0.0.0/8 allocations into
arpa that works.

So you see I think it prudent that there be a policy to allow for returns
and replacement of arpa.  I don't think you boys should be issuing numbers
when you are aware that they don't work and are causing people financial
problems to their business operations.

So if you do get complaints regarding 82.0.0.0/8 - do you intend to make
sure your customers get network that work - or will RIPE be following the
ARIN lead and just let these people hang.

regards
joe baptista