more authority for mnt-lower in the allocation objects

Hi

I fully support Tanja's and Arnd's proposal.
Several people (myself as well) had already requested some improvements
on the mnt-routes problem, because it is a frequent problem for network
operators.

The proposed change should be very easy for inetnums with existing 
mnt-lower object, such a change was already done to include mnt-routes.
But I imagine manual updates would be necessary for inet-nums with 
"mnt-by: RIPE-NCC-HM-MNT". 

Dear hostmasters, can we see figures on how many allocation objects exist 
of either sort?

Regards 
Karsten Koepp

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Arnd Vehling [mailto:av at nethead.de]
> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 12:11 PM
> To: Tanja Heimes
> Cc: lir-wg at ripe.net
> Subject: Re: more authority for mnt-lower in the allocation objects
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Tanja Heimes wrote:
> [..]
> > This is my opinion:
> > Yes, it makes sence that RIPE NCC is the maintainer of a LIRs
> > allocation.
> > But in my opinion it makes NO sence that Cable and Wireles (and all
> > other LIRs) as mnt-lower
> > do not have the authority to change their own administrative and
> > technical contacts in the allocation.
> 
> IMO this is correct. The LIR should be able to modify this information
> without needing to write to hostmaster at ripe.net (which may take some
> time depending on how busy the hostmaster team is).
> 
> admin-c, tech-c, mnt-lower and mnt-routes within an 
> allocation should be 
> changeable by the LIR itself.
> 
> I know this is difficult to accomplish while "mnt-by:" points to
> an ripe-maintainer. But as far as i know RIPE has a second database
> where all allocations are stored for cross-checlking. 
> Therefore we could 
> take an approach where the allocation may only be created by RIPE but 
> may be updated by the according LIR. This can simply be 
> accomplished by 
> removing  the RIPE-Maintainer from the object after creation 
> and change it
> to the according maintainer of the LIR.
> 
> regards,
> 
>   Arnd Vehling
> -- 
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