[lir-wg] RIPE NCC AGMs (was: the 50% increase discussion)

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	Daniel,

I am trying to sue you here BUT,


> The number of participants in RIPE NCC AGMs is small because the vast
> majority of the members does not see the need to participate.  If the

I am sorry? Do you think that the african LIRs under RIPE think it's 
worth the money to come for one day to the AGM? Or perhaps they don't 
count? do you think the small or corporate think it's worth the money? 
Or maybe we could just impose a rule that organizations with a 
turn-over or less that X EUR a year can't vote. Or LIRs not in NL can't 
vote?

I have been told of several occasions when the KPNQwest attendent to 
the AGM have the majority of the vote. Alone. I am starting to feel 
sorry we didn't execute the voting power.

> RIPE NCC was consistently doing things the members do not want,
> participation would be higher and this would be corrected.


I am sorry? Are you arguing that the NCC should not do what the members 
want?

Coming from one of the original founders of RIPE NCC and a well 
respected member, must say you are starting to look pretty odd in my 
book.


Perhaps we need a good bar and some time at the next RIPE meeting, but 
for now I must say I disagree with everything you have said. It is 
contra-productive  for the NCC as well as for your self.

- kurtis -