[lir-wg] AS Number Policy - continued

Yes, RIPE should definitely reclaim unused ASN but how is the question.

1. Global routing table is not complete due to various reasons discussed
before
2. Whois database could be out-of-date ( If I didn't return the ASN by
myself, I probably won't delete my aut-num object as well).
3. Multi-home doesn't mean Multi-LIR. Most tier-1 ISPs have more than one
ASN and there are definitely some end-users connect to two ASNs but under
one company.
4. Is RIPE doing this free-of-charge or the paying LIR will expense this. By
saying this, I am thinking maybe ASN should be renewed with an annual fee ?
Euro 50 or wait $50 is cheaper now :)


Ping Lu
Cable & Wireless USA
Network Tools and Analysis Group
W: +1-703-292-2359
E: plu at cw.net


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet [mailto:woeber at cc.univie.ac.at]
> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 10:52 AM
> To: lir-wg at ripe.net
> Cc: woeber at cc.univie.ac.at
> Subject: Re: [lir-wg] AS Number Policy - continued
> 
> 
>   Dear Leo!
> 
> >I would like to continue this discussion by asking two more 
> >questions:
> >
> >1. Should the RIPE NCC check whether Autonomous System Numbers 
> >   it has assigned become multi-homed within six months? If you 
> >   would like us to do this, the RIPE NCC proposes to do so by 
> >   looking at routing policies registered in the Routing Registry.
> 
>   NO,
> 
>   because the method proposed in your Q (and those discussed in this
>   context on the mailng list) is not going to provide reliable data.
>   
>   I am prepared to answer YES,
>   - if this is done for statistical reasons ONLY,
>   - and any data getting published carries an appropriate
>     "fuzziness disclaimer" (tbd).
> 
> >2. Should the policy be changed so that AS numbers not in use 
> >   can be reclaimed? If there is consensus on this we propose 
> >   to reclaim AS numbers of networks not multi-homed after six 
> >   months.
> 
>   NO.
>   
>   With the qualification that
>   I am more than willing to change that to a YES
>   as soon as 
>   - we have an agreed definition of "not in use",
>   - and we have agreed on the procedures (and the cost for 
> verification)
>     to check, plus the impact on the performance of the 
> Hostmaster Role.
> 
> >Kind regards,
> >
> >-- 
> >leo vegoda
> >RIPE NCC
> >Registration Services
> 
>   Regards,
>   Wilfried
>  
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