[gigabell-technik] Re: RIPE Hostmasters visiting LIRs

Jan Ahrent Czmok wrote:

> what should be covered are the costs ? 50 / 50 for lir / ripe or
> what else.

You bring up an issue that we have to solve. And that is the
finance of this. I think that most of the interested bigger 
LIR:s would be able to finance this on a, let's say, 50/50 basis.
 
> i mean for bigger lirs it shall be no problem, but the smaller ones
> may not have enough money to pay the hotel or travel costs for the
> hostmaster.

It is up to all the LIR:s that are interested to have a visit
from a hostmaster to take an active roll in this suggestion.
Noone should be forced ;-) But speaking for an ISP, i should
evaluate the cost and see what i should gain from a visit. And
i know it should be worth it. There is so many issues you would 
like to discuss with the RIPE staff, eye to eye. The meetings
are a good forum, but sometimes you would like to show how
that actual sitiuation is within your country or area. 

(One thing. This should not be a way for an big ISP to get
 a chance to do "lobbying" on his own turf. I am not afraid
 of this. But i would only like to state my opinion of this.)

But those LIR:s that feel that they can not affford this is
the main factor. I do not know how hard it should strain RIPE:s
budget if we should do this:

Eg:

Size      LIR/RIPE
---------------------------------------------------
Large  :  50/50 %
Medium :  35/65 %
Small  :  20/80 %

( These numbers i just a suggestion )

The big LIR:s would "support" the smaller ones. But i am 
willing to do this as long that i can see that this will 
benefit the community as a whole.

How much expences would RIPE:s finances be able to take
without rising the memberfee for the LIR:s?

If this would be a result of this, then i am sorry to
say, would not get a consensus on a meeting.

Regards

/Amar

Telia Net