PI vs PA Address Space

          prue at ISI.EDU writes:
        > In order to charge enough to cause behavior changes the
        > backbones would have to charge a lot for individual routes.  The
        > cost for internet access is quite high right now so a charge of
        > say $100/year would be a drop in the bucket compared to the
        > other costs.
    
    I'm entering the conversation in mid-stream, so please excuse me if I
    reiterate something.
    
    I don't know where the discussion of funding the InterNIC after public
    funding runs out has gone, but it seemed to me as though something
    exactly like this would be a reasonable means...  Rather than making
    it revenue-neutral and handled by backbone carriers, make it a source
    of funding for the InterNIC, which would scale as their load
    increased. A combination of very small fees for domain name
    registration, and a somewhat larger fee for a route.  But not _too_
    large a fee.  :-)  Both intended be be passed down the food chain as
    far as possible, to keep people on their best behaviour.
    
    We're a mid-sized regional, with a partially-populated B, and five or
    six grandfathered-in Cs, that customers from way back have had.  About
    three months ago, we decided to clean things up, and convinced several
    of our customers to move from a CIDR block and some of their own Cs to
    subnets of our B, and then stopped routing the Cs and returned the
    CIDR block. In order to do this, we had to do quite a bit of
    persuasion, and the fact that we levied a $100/year fee for routes
    didn't seem to make an impression on anyone.
    
    The Little Garden, another regional here, also implemented a $100/year
    fee, at the same time, and they're having aboutthe same results.
    
    So I think a fee would have to be up more in the $1,000-$1,500/year
    range, but commensurate with that, the NIC would have to be willing to
    give out much larger CIDR blocks, rather than lots of little ones as
    they seem to now.

    Just my thoughts.
  
                         -Bill Woodcock

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