Re: ENUM trials in general, axel Pawlik <axel.pawlik@localhost, Daniel Karrenberg <daniel.karrenberg@localhost

[Richard Shockey <]

At 08:45 PM 2/24/2003 +0100, Michael Haberler wrote:
> Carsten,
>
> I do not understand the outcome of this consultation with the IAB.
>
> There is a trial. There are fragmented directories underneath the country 
> code spaces. Running some directory associated with a domain is a standard 
> practice. There is a need for an interim directory - even I would like to 
> try interoperability outside my +43 backyard without plowing through 
> assorted websites. It is useful to exercise the collation of a larger 
> directory, or take a stab at building a distributed directory in the first 
> place. Everybody registering at this stage clearly knows that he cant 
> claim innocence (mostly not even incompetence :-) on the privacy 
> implications of the current state of technology. Everywhere the regulators 
> are at least in the loop, or driving the trials. I for my part (interim 
> 3.4.e164.arpa registry) cannot observe any lack of visibility and 
> attention by our regulator, telcos, data protection paranoia usual 
> suspects etc.
>
> I would like the person shooting down such a useful idea to come a 
> concrete, workable and timely alternative.
>
> Can I suggest you RIPE guys give this issue a second try in explaining the 
> issue to the IAB ?

well .. I certainly understand the reluctance of RIPE to undertake such a 
task ..its a administrative headache and I respect that ...they are doing a 
great deal as it is ..

I may have a talk with some of the other trial folks ..aka Austria and see 
if they could throw some resources into a simple voluntary web phone book 
registration system.


> thanks,
>
> -Michael
>
> ps: I dont fully grasp the rationale for the involvement of the IAB in 
> such a IMV tactical development support question in the first place. 
> Define it as trial support and go ahead.
>
> This might also be the opportunity to show SRV records at work with a 
> useful job.
>
>
> At 15:32 20.02.2003 +0100, Carsten Schiefner wrote:
>
> > Richard, Marco -
> >
> > Richard Shockey wrote:
> > >At 09:24 AM 1/12/2003 +0000, Marco Bernardi wrote:
> > >> I think running such a directory  implies some responsibilities. We
> > >> don't want any misuse/abuse.  All this must be done in responsible
> > >> way and by a responsible organization. It seems to me that  it can be
> > >> the perfect job for Ripe (Carsten -  sorry for putting  you on the
> > >> spot...)
> > >
> > > I have to agree RIPE would be perfect as the administrator of the root
> > > .... but I also think this is very very simple and not too much real
> > > work
> > >
> > > the only data collected would be
> > >
> > > User Name
> > > email address
> > > e164 number
> > >
> > > that can periodically generate a text file test participants can use
> >
> > After considering the issue with IAB - the RIPE NCC is operating the 
> > Tier0 registry on behalf of the IAB - we came to the conclusion that the 
> > RIPE NCC shall refrain from offering such an even only temporary ENUM 
> > directory service to the community, as such a service would be better 
> > carried out by a different entity to preserve a clear understanding of 
> > responsibilities in the Internet community.
> > Also the effects of such a temporary directory relating to the longer 
> > term issue of ENUM directories and associated privacy and regulatory 
> > issues are not fully explored yet and need more consideration.
> >
> > Thanks for your understanding - best,
> >
> >         -C.

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