[eb-candidates] Question for all candidates

Hi Pavel,

Thank you for your well thought out response.

I appreciate your time invested in trying to answer this question and I 
do not disagree fundamentally with attempting to do so with raw data as 
much as possible. As much as I would like to say I could stand side by 
side with you in such an effort to continue to dig, we all have our 
limitations in time that can be allotted, however, I fully support and 
appreciate having as much data public as possible.

Personally, I am of a very suspicious opinion that RIPE NCC has become 
quite the bloated organization potentially stifled by its own size.

I would love to see your findings shared with the community, and as 
active as the members mailing list is currently, I do believe the time 
is ripe (pun intended) for members to pay attention to additional data 
and metrics. I feel evaluating expenses, and then extrapolating the 
benefit from said expenses should be first and foremost on the list.

I look forward to what may come.

Daniel~


On 5/14/24 12:06 PM, Pavel Odintsov wrote:
>
> Hello, Daniel and all Community Members!
>
>
> Thank you very much for your question!
>
>
> About one month ago, the RIPE NCC Board proposed a draft of a new 
> charging scheme that stirred intense debate and resistance from a 
> significant portion of RIPE NCC Members. This motivated me to join a 
> group (https://t.me/ripe_budget_talks 
> <https://t.me/ripe_budget_talks>) to better understand RIPE NCC 
> finances and, ideally, to propose an alternative charging scheme that 
> aligns with the interests and needs of as many RIPE NCC Members across 
> the regions as possible. Our group had fewer than a dozen members at 
> its inception and has grown to 110 members, including RIPE NCC 
> executives and the RIPE NCC Board Chair.
>
>
> Our first project was to propose an alternative charging scheme, but 
> we ran into a significant obstacle which almost derailed our effort 
> and caused delays - we missed crucial data in machine-readable 
> formats. We lack detailed machine-readable information about RIPE NCC 
> members, LIRs (and their relationship with RIPE NCC members) and their 
> resources (IPv4, IPv6, PI, ASN) that they hold. In response to this, 
> we had to source side data to compensate for the lack of this 
> information from official sources. As we progressed, we discovered a 
> total lack of information about agreements with legacy resource 
> holders and associated fees. These details are crucial for modeling 
> charging schemes, yet they are clearly missing - this fact was 
> confirmed in writing by RIPE NCC staff.
>
>
> The charging scheme is only one aspect of the RIPE NCC budget. Hence, 
> we sought to understand how RIPE NCC allocates its funds, and yet 
> again, we encountered significant gaps in our research which we were 
> unable to fill using information obtained through official channels. 
> Please let me know if you’re interested in details and I’ll be glad to 
> share all our findings with Community.
>
>
> We cannot propose alternative charging schemes or find ways to reduce 
> budget without having all the information needed available to every 
> single Member of RIPE NCC in a clear and (ideally) machine readable 
> format.
>
>
> My personal focus as a potential RIPE NCC Board member will be on 
> increased transparency as it’s the only way to engage the incredible 
> skill of our wide RIPE NCC Member community and use it to find 
> solutions to our current and future challenges.
>
>
> United we stand!
>
>
> The RIPE Community is invited to join our initiative, by contributing 
> knowledge and expertise to improve the RIPE Community and RIPE NCC. 
> Our main communication platform is Telegram but we will be happy to 
> add more platforms if needed: https://t.me/ripe_budget_talks 
> <https://t.me/ripe_budget_talks>
>
>
> If you have any feedback or ideas to share, please contact me here or 
> reach me via the following channels:
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> Thank you!
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 14 May 2024 at 15:16, Daniel Pearson 
> <daniel at privatesystems.net> wrote:
>
>     It appears this mailing list does not get used very much but I would
>     like a direct comment from each proposed candidate up for election on
>     the charging scheme changes, and your view point on if RIPE should be
>     reducing its budget and how the current situation is being handled.
>
>
>     Thanks for your time.
>
>     Daniel~
>
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> Sincerely yours, Pavel Odintsov

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