[db-wg] Historical data on deleted objects

I referred to PII in inetnum objects descr: fields
These fields are not protected by RIPE's privacy protection
like contact or person

inetnum:         91.114.x.y - 91.114.x.y
netname:         A1TA-AT
descr:           A1 Telekom Austria AG (originally my full name)
descr:           Arsenal Obj 24 (originally my street)
descr:           1030 Vienna (originally my postal code)

When you view the history of this object my PII (full name, street and 
postal code) is still visible in the description fields.

Removing this PII information in the descr: field of the inetnum object 
can only be achieved by deleting the object, which removes the history 
as well.

For this reason it would be beneficial if deleting an object also 
deletes its history.

I apologize for not beeing clear enough.

Rgds, MiKa


On 2024-05-24 08:59, Michael Kafka via db-wg wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> the deletion of an object together with it's history is the only way to 
> remove PII from the RIPE database which is in conflict with GDPR. This 
> PII is usually in comments and contains full name, often together with 
> postal code, city, street name and sometimes with house number.
> 
> A choice "delete with history"/"delete and keep history" would serve 
> both use cases.
> 
> Rgds, MiKa
> 
> On 2024-05-24 00:55, Yang Yu via db-wg wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> According to 
>> https://apps.db.ripe.net/docs/Types-of-Queries/Historical-Queries/
>> , historical query doesn't return data on deleted objects. This
>> behavior makes it difficult to distinguish whether a resource was
>> squatted on / analyze history associated with abuse on the resource.
>> And it is not consistent with other RIR's whowas behavior.
>>
>> Currently on RIPE whowas UI unallocated and deleted objects look
>> exactly the same.
>> https://stat.ripe.net/widget/historical-whois#w.resource=as199256
>>
>> Last time the discussion came up appears to be
>> https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/db-wg/2013-November/004195.html
>>
>> Can history support for deleted objects get implemented?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> Yang
>>
> 

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