[db-wg] abuse-c: proposal

Hi *,

>>Problem is imho that a simple mail-address would only scale downwards 
>>[i.e. for those with few netblocks]. From the discussion it seems that 
>>irt only scales upwards [i.e. for the ones with many netblocks who are 
>>willing to understand the system without a priori saying 'it's too 
>>complicated]
> 
> 
> Ok, opening up the can of worms:
> 
> The question will then be: what abuse address do we write into the objects. In
> allocations for sure the contact of the LIR/Provider. But into the object of
> the customer networks? The address of the customer's abuse department? Or,
> here too, the one of the provider? Or both? And if we use the customer's abuse
> department's address, are we going forward and demand that this address will be
> mandatory and has to be given in the requests for new netblocks? And if we use
> both addresses, do we need tags for them to indicate the escalation level?

I'd say always to the 'best match' i.e. most specific netblock that has 
an abuse-c/irt (that is what -c is for!). anything else should be local 
policy from the LIR.

> Probably we should head in two directions simultaneously
> 
> 1. A short term solution, using admin-c: <email> to better the current
>    situation a little.

I don't see how this is a solution to the above problem.

> 2. A longterm solution with a proper hierarchy, clear defined policy, and 
>    technically easy to administrate objects -> IRT.

<cynical>tong term solution most probably means 'never'</cynical>

If we do it we should do it properly in the first place.

> Even though I would have to touch relatively many objects, I am still willing
> to got for the admin-c: <email>.

I disagree. Are there any other direct opinions apart from 'i can live 
with both' ?

lG uk
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