[cooperation-wg] [cooperation-wg-chairs] Cooperation WG Chair Selection Process - candidates and launch of the discussion

Hi everyone,

Happy New Year to you all. I want to go ahead and address a potential point
of awkwardness for everyone – an elephant in the room of sorts – and I
figure it's best to rip off the bandage now so we can move forward in a
constructive way. This group now faces a challenging (but ultimately
positive) dilemma of having not one, but two excellent and well-qualified
individuals running for the open co-chair position. If you're like me, this
presents quite a challenge.

I've been quiet on the matter because I personally know Dick and Desiree.
They are both exceptionally qualified, and I have no doubt either of them
will do an excellent job in this role. But without trying to offer a
non-endorsement for either, I'd rather frame it the following way. I enjoy
keeping up with this working group and the value it adds, but it
essentially has no impact on my work (and is, thus, not my place to
decide).

When considering who to cast your vote for, my suggestion is to think of
whose background and experience best compliments Julf and Achilleas'. I can
think of no better way to assess. Regardless, I have no doubt both will be
gracious whatever the decision and remain engaged.

Do any others feel similarly?

Best,
-Michael Oghia

On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 12:09 PM KEMOS Achilleas <
Achilleas.KEMOS at ec.europa.eu> wrote:

> Dear group,
>
> Best wishes for happy prosperous and healthy 2021 from me too.
>
> Many thanks to Dick and Desiree for having responded to Julf's request on
> visions of challenges and opportunities for  2021, as well as many thanks
> to  all those who expressed support for the candidates. As this is a
> selection rather than an election process, it would be much more helpful to
> know the reasoning why you express support for a candidate rather than the
> mere expression of support for this candidate.
>
> Best regards.
> Achilleas
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cooperation-wg-chairs <cooperation-wg-chairs-bounces at ripe.net> On
> Behalf Of Johan Helsingius
> Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2021 3:51 PM
> To: cooperation-wg at ripe.net; Richard Leaning <rleaning at cloudflare.com>;
> Desiree Miloshevic <dmiloshevic at afilias.info>
> Cc: 'cooperation-wg-chairs at ripe.net' <cooperation-wg-chairs at ripe.net>
> Subject: Re: [cooperation-wg-chairs] [cooperation-wg] Cooperation WG Chair
> Selection Process - candidates and launch of the discussion
>
> Dear group,
>
> Let me start by wishing you a happy and safe 2021. In the Chinese
> calendar, 2020 is
> the year of the Rat, and 2021 the year of the Ox. Personally I have to say
> I prefer
> BS (that is something we are all used to) to the plague.
>
> Anyway, January 5 is approaching quickly, and Achilleas and I are facing
> the
> prospect of having to pick one of the co-chair candidates without much
> input
> from the WG members. Therefore I would like to kick off a quick discussion
> round by asking both Desiree and Dick to post their visions of what they
> think the challenges and opportunities are in 2021 for the RIPE community
> with regards to governments and international organisations.
>
>         Julf
>
>
> On 15-12-2020 14:46, KEMOS Achilleas wrote:
> > Dear Group,
> > Following the call for third co-chair posted on 30 November, we are
> pleased to announce that we have two candidates that have expressed and
> confirmed their interest for the post of the third co-chair:
> >
> > - Desiree Miloshevic
> > - Richard Leaning
> >
> > We invite the Desiree and Richard to present themselves to the Group,
> launching thus the discussion in the WG mailing list.
> >
> > Please note that as we will be in a holiday period, we will keep the
> discussion open until 5 January 2021 instead of the foreseen  2 week period.
> >
> > We thank again Desiree and Richard and the other members that expressed
> interest for this post.
> > Julf & Achilleas
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Cooperation-wg-chairs <cooperation-wg-chairs-bounces at ripe.net> On
> Behalf Of Achilleas.KEMOS at ec.europa.eu
> > Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 1:09 PM
> > To: cooperation-wg at ripe.net
> > Cc: cooperation-wg-chairs at ripe.net
> > Subject: [cooperation-wg-chairs] Reminder: [cooperation-wg] Cooperation
> WG Chair Selection Process (was Re: Looking for third co-chair)
> >
> > Dear Group,
> >
> > We have posted a call  for third co-chair on Monday, November 30.
> >
> > We are pleased as Group Members have already been in touch and expressed
> interest.
> >
> > For those that might be interested, please note you still have one week,
> until end of the day (CET) on Monday, December 14 to make your interest
> known to WG co-chairs (mail address in cc).
> >
> > Julf & Achilleas
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cooperation-wg <cooperation-wg-bounces at ripe.net> On Behalf Of
> Johan Helsingius
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 4:22 PM
> > To: cooperation-wg at ripe.net
> > Subject: [cooperation-wg] Cooperation WG Chair Selection Process (was
> Re: Looking for third co-chair)
> >
> > For clarity, here is the official Cooperation WG Chair Selection Process:
> >
> >
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/wg/active-wg/coop/cooperation-wg-chair-selection-process__;!!DOxrgLBm!RUWHqPd1OzavwrllGhRk-_vr1KIBh5aH4PTcE-fCNqKeFv3Qvsj7wmRJM5flkrFL0ycL2ax8$
> >
> > "The RIPE Coop WG aims for multiple Chairs, with two or three Chairs,
> ideally from differing sectors, being ideal.
> >
> > The process for selecting a new chair is as follows:
> >
> > 1. A call for interested parties is made on the WG mailing list at least
> every three years, or whenever needed.
> > 2. Interested parties have two weeks to make their interest known via
> the mailing list, or directly to the Chair/s.
> > 3. After two weeks, the Chair/s ensure that all candidates are announced
> on the mailing list and issue a call for discussion.
> > 4. WG members express their approval or otherwise of the presented
> candidates.
> > 5. Two weeks after the call for discussion, the Chair/s declare a
> decision, based on mailing list discussion,
> >    as they would do for a policy proposal."
> >
> > Thus, as we have posted the call on Monday, November 30, it means
> interested parties have until end
> > of the day (CET) on Monday, December 14 to make their interest known.
> >
> > A few people have already been in touch, but more interest is definitely
> welcome!
> >
> >       Julf & Achilleas
> >
>
>
>
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