[cooperation-wg] cooperation-wg Digest, Vol 27, Issue 6 (EP "Connected Continent" and Internet Fast Lane provisions?)

In my opinion, that kind of specialized  services are a VPN. It’s no Internet.

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Il giorno 20/mar/2014, alle ore 00:03, Patrik Fältström <paf at frobbit.se> ha scritto:

> 
> 
> On 2014-03-19 20:13, Gordon Lennox wrote:
>> On 19 Mar, 2014, at 18:34, Innocenzo Genna <inno at innogenna.it
>> <mailto:inno at innogenna.it>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 15) “specialized service” means an electronic communications
>>> service */optimized for /*specific content, applications or services,
>>> or a combination thereof, */provided over logically distinct capacity
>>> and relying on strict admission control from end to end/*. It is not
>>> marketed or */usable/* as a substitute for internet access service;
>>> [its application layer is not functionally identical to services and
>>> applications available over the public internet access service;]
>> 
>> And that, particularly if the specialised service uses IP, is the problem? 
>> 
>> And end-to-end means to a particular device or, more probably, an end
>> network controlled by the service supplier.
>> 
>> I stopped liking "end-to-end" sometime back.
>> 
> 
> I have no idea what and how to implement technically what they talk
> about as "specialices service that does not impcat...".
> 
> In a packet based network, if the outgoing interface is not full, all
> packets will be forwarded as soon as possible.
> 
> If the outgoing interface is full, then one can either queue all packets
> equally (M/M/1 queuing theory) or one can have multiple queues (M/M/N).
> If one have a specialized service that have some special treatment, then
> by definition that implies longer delay on other queues (as packets get
> reordered).
> 
> Now, there are some special cases as well where the _services_ sold can
> be different (i.e. some business connection with some SLA that is higher
> than some SLA for end users paying less).
> 
> What I think is sad is that they did not stop at saying for example:
> 
> - Each provider of a service is required to always deliver to their
> customers the service they have promised to deliver. (Regardless of what
> other services they deliver to other customers on the same network...)
> 
> Not any silly end-to-end. No silly "specialized service" etc.
> 
> Then in other paragraphs they already (if I remember correctly) have
> wording about equal treatment, dominant provider of services etc.
> 
>   Patrik
> 

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