<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">In my opinion, that kind of specialized services are a VPN. 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It is not<br>marketed or */usable/* as a substitute for internet access service;<br>[its application layer is not functionally identical to services and<br>applications available over the public internet access service;]<br></blockquote><br>And that, particularly if the specialised service uses IP, is the problem? <br><br>And end-to-end means to a particular device or, more probably, an end<br>network controlled by the service supplier.<br><br>I stopped liking "end-to-end" sometime back.<br><br></blockquote><br>I have no idea what and how to implement technically what they talk<br>about as "specialices service that does not impcat...".<br><br>In a packet based network, if the outgoing interface is not full, all<br>packets will be forwarded as soon as possible.<br><br>If the outgoing interface is full, then one can either queue all packets<br>equally (M/M/1 queuing theory) or one can have multiple queues (M/M/N).<br>If one have a specialized service that have some special treatment, then<br>by definition that implies longer delay on other queues (as packets get<br>reordered).<br><br>Now, there are some special cases as well where the _services_ sold can<br>be different (i.e. some business connection with some SLA that is higher<br>than some SLA for end users paying less).<br><br>What I think is sad is that they did not stop at saying for example:<br><br>- Each provider of a service is required to always deliver to their<br>customers the service they have promised to deliver. (Regardless of what<br>other services they deliver to other customers on the same network...)<br><br>Not any silly end-to-end. No silly "specialized service" etc.<br><br>Then in other paragraphs they already (if I remember correctly) have<br>wording about equal treatment, dominant provider of services etc.<br><br> Patrik<br><br></blockquote></div><br></div></div></body></html>