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Re: Getting open smtp servers fixed


Hi!

> If it will be no ISPs allowing spammers, he will spam once for each ISP,
> and then he will stop forever.  I think, that stoping the spammers at
> source is the most convenient way for the time being.  Upgrading the
> email servers as non-relay it will be time consuming all over the
> Internet and until that happens, we'll have to educate the users, not to
> black hole almost everything.  I'll welcome some new rules that a new
> ISP will have to follow, but we can't already shoot-off the existing
> ISPs, we'll have to educate them but not using the gun.  
> However, RBL = YES, but ORBS = NO.

Well. ORBS an RBL both arent't really threats until ISPs are starting
to *use* ORBS/RBL listings.

This is very unlikely -- I use RBL on my personal system, and
exactly 2 (*two*) RBL-listed spam domain occured in the last 40 days,
while approx. 16K mails were transferred on that system and
approx. 300-400 spam mails received during that time.

The mail denial is not the part is not where the action is 8-)

Both, ORBS and RBL are a *very* good way to wake up your costumers
without having to do the work.

RBL for its good documentation on the problem, ORBS for their
"agressive pushing" of the agenda.

So, from my point of view, both ways are positive and should be promoted.

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