[anti-abuse-wg] Abuse Report ignored. What to do as next?

If sending notifications is so effective and you already have the infrastructure in place to do it, then why involve RIPE? Can’t you just send the notices?

laura 



> On 1 Dec 2023, at 12:52, Serge Droz via anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net> wrote:
> 
> It will make some organizations start handling reports that didn't do it before.
> 
> We tried this in Switzerland, sending all ISPs abuse data asking them to deal with it. In the beginning, very little enthusiasm, today most do.
> 
> None of these proposals have ever been tries, yet your you insist on knowing they don't work. Let's try it and see what happens. If you insist on 100% guarantees you'll never change anything. This is, why in the IETF you can't simply say no, but you have to come with an alternative. So to that I challenge you.
> 
> With this attitude the internet wouldn't exist. Sounds like the "Seat belts don't work" fraction back in the day.
> 
> But I'll shut up now and focus on more constructive discussions elsewhere.
> 
> Best
> Serge
> 
> 
> On 01.12.23 13:22, Laura Atkins wrote:
>> None of this will make a company who doesn’t want to deal with abuse complaints deal with abuse complaints. It’s a total waste of resources.
>> laura
>>> On 1 Dec 2023, at 10:53, U.Mutlu <security at mutluit.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> For each complaint to RIPE NCC then such an
>>> (automated) email should be sent by the RIPE NCC
>>> to the abuse-c of that member.
>>> This should be the absolute minimum that should be done by the RIPE NCC.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Matthias Merkel wrote on 11/30/23 11:47:
>>>> The proposal is to send verification emails to abuse mailboxes and have a link
>>>> in them clicked, right? I would have no objection to that.
>>>> 
>>>> Is there more that is being proposed in this proposal specifically?
>>>> 
>>>> —
>>>> Maria Merkel
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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