[anti-abuse-wg] About "consensus" and "voting"...

Hi Randy,

>> Otherwise we change the way the working Groups works it will remain
>> unchanged for ever. I agree that we must get a way to vote or another
>> democratic way to get decisions.
> 
> the goals of the ripe community are stewardship and cooperation, not
> voting, deciding, and "getting things done."  you can look at the
> current us govt for a great example of why not.
> 
> if we can not come to consensus on something, then we are patient.
> and that's ok.  we move as a cooperative community and that takes
> time.
> 
> yes, this becomes more complex as the community scales and becomes
> more diverse.  and we want diversity and wide representation.  so
> ever more patience is needed; not the means to rush to judgment.
> 
> for a large segment of the community, and that which was pretty much
> the original population, there is an underlying physics and shared
> experience of moving packets, routing, circuits, bgp, ixen, ... that
> gives us a common experience and understanding.
> 
> as we become more diverse, the physics of that shared experience and
> understanding weakens.  so cooperative/consensus decision making is
> more complex and takes longer.  welcome to a larger and mode diverse
> community.  this is good.
> 
> but we are stewards of one internet.
> 
> it took eight, yes eight, years for me to get the ietf to change a
> constant from 4k to 64k (rfc 8654).  so my sense of urgency may be a
> little different than that of others.

Thank you for writing this down so clearly,
Sander

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