[anti-abuse-wg] 2019-04 Discussion Phase (Validation of "abuse-mailbox")

Hi Alessandro,

As I've indicated already several times (and not just in this discussion), all the RIRs have forms or other methods to escalate any issues.

The proposal is only changing "let's have stats".


El 4/5/20 12:29, "anti-abuse-wg en nombre de Alessandro Vesely" <anti-abuse-wg-bounces at ripe.net en nombre de vesely at tana.it> escribió:

    Hi,

    On 29/04/2020 13:22, Gert Doering wrote:
    > 
    > If people *want* to handle abuse reports, they do so today already
    > (and if they mess up their mail reception, the NCC will check this today
    > already, and let them know).
    > 
    > If people *do not want* to handle abuse reports, this proposal will not
    > make them.


    The above is unquestionable truth.  There is a grey area, where a mailbox
    doesn't work because of misconfiguration, mailbox full, or similar issues.
    Validation might help in those cases.

    However, statements like:

        The “abuse-c:” will be mandatory for all aut-nums

    are in conflict with the unquestionable truth quoted above.  Please, allow
    abuse-c to be empty!  I have to keep a dont-send list of non-responding abuse
    addresses.  Some 70% of the complaints I would have sent hit that list.  It
    would be more practical to have an empty abuse-c entry in the first place.

    In addition, having networks without abuse addresses makes them more easily
    identifiable.  RIPE NCC could compile the relevant IP addresses into an easily
    usable format, for example one readable by rbldns.  Rather than following-up
    and threatening resource revocation, upon repeated validation failures, the
    RIPE NCC should just remove the non-working abuse-c entry, thereby adding the
    relevant IP addresses to the "no-complaints" list.

    A web form to report bouncing abuse addresses would be useful too.


    Best
    Ale
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