[anti-abuse-wg] 2019-04 Discussion Phase (Validation of "abuse-mailbox")

Is this "Alessandro Vesely" person from an alternate universe or something?

"The Police aren't going to respond to a call about someone breaking in to
my house... so let's just remove the phone number from the phone book all
together."

What. The.. F................





On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 8:29 PM Alessandro Vesely <vesely at tana.it> wrote:

> Hi,
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> On 29/04/2020 13:22, Gert Doering wrote:
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> > If people *want* to handle abuse reports, they do so today already
> > (and if they mess up their mail reception, the NCC will check this today
> > already, and let them know).
> >
> > If people *do not want* to handle abuse reports, this proposal will not
> > make them.
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> The above is unquestionable truth.  There is a grey area, where a mailbox
> doesn't work because of misconfiguration, mailbox full, or similar issues.
> Validation might help in those cases.
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> However, statements like:
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>     The “abuse-c:” will be mandatory for all aut-nums
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> are in conflict with the unquestionable truth quoted above.  Please, allow
> abuse-c to be empty!  I have to keep a dont-send list of non-responding
> abuse
> addresses.  Some 70% of the complaints I would have sent hit that list.  It
> would be more practical to have an empty abuse-c entry in the first place.
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> In addition, having networks without abuse addresses makes them more easily
> identifiable.  RIPE NCC could compile the relevant IP addresses into an
> easily
> usable format, for example one readable by rbldns.  Rather than
> following-up
> and threatening resource revocation, upon repeated validation failures, the
> RIPE NCC should just remove the non-working abuse-c entry, thereby adding
> the
> relevant IP addresses to the "no-complaints" list.
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> A web form to report bouncing abuse addresses would be useful too.
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> Best
> Ale
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