[anti-abuse-wg] Fwd: Re: botnet controllers

@Jordi Palet Martinez: If Spamhaus would just list IP addresses we 
wouldn't mind that. The reality is different though.
We brought a /24 prefix to a certain hosting provider which I don't want 
to name here and a few weeks after that Spamhaus listed the other clean 
prefixes of that company (which have no direct connection to our IPs) on 
SBL.
The result was that all other customers were unable to sent any emails. 
The company had to refund them, resulting in a financial damage of more 
than 7000 Euros.
There is no way to prevent this, because right after legal actions were 
taken in the United Kingdom by one of our upstream partners they moved 
their companys' headquarters to Andorra, which is outside the EU.
Spamhaus is no legal entity, but they behave like one. They can do that 
because during recent years they gained an enormous power: Most email 
providers take their lists without any question, so if they want they 
can destroy an entire hosting provider, and if you want to take legal 
actions against them you need to find a law firm which is active in 
Andorra.
Why don't they reveal their identities like BitNinja does in its 
imprint?
Then all parties could present their evidence in court.