[anti-abuse-wg] working in new version of 2019-04 (Validation of "abuse-mailbox")

Hi all,

I'm working in a new version of the proposal 2019-04 (Validation of "abuse-mailbox").

In the last discussion phase, the only detailed response to this proposal that I got was from Carlos Friacas (which I will respond in detail later-on, as this may also help to revive the discussion).

The main question/issue here is still that the actual policy is just a "technical validation". It confirms that there is a mailbox but it doesn't confirm that:
1) Accept emails for abuse reporting
2) The mailbox is the right one and not from someone else, not related to the abuse processing
3) The mailbox is attended and not a black-hole, so nobody pay attention to the abuse reports, or even worst, not full

Anything not fulfilling that is useless (as will not fulfil the mission for that mailbox), and then we don't need an abuse-c at all.

Even more, I think we can say that an invalid contact, it is against the role of the RIR for having accurate data.

It will be interesting if the staff can provide actual data from the existing policy (ripe-705), such as:
1) Has the validation already been performed in all the contacts or only a % of the LIRs and end-users?
2) How many have failed in the first run?
3) After that failure (for those that failed), have the contacts been updated, or only a % of them? Has this helped to located "not anymore existing LIRs or end-users"? How much time, average, takes for the invalid contacts to be corrected? Have them been validated again after some months?
4) How many (%) of those that didn't failed we know that are real abuse-c contacts and not just an existing mailbox that may be not from the right person/team, or even bouncing emails or nobody reading them?

I'm happy to hear other inputs, stats, data, etc.

Regards,
Jordi
@jordipalet
 
 



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