[anti-abuse-wg] 2019-04 New Policy Proposal (Validation of "abuse-mailbox")

El 18/5/19 10:35, "Gert Doering" <gert at space.net> escribió:

    Hi,
    
    On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 10:28:45AM +0200, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via anti-abuse-wg wrote:
    >     So, please state *first* what is wrong or insufficient with the current
    >     process, and why these added complications would improve the end goal:
    >     abuse reports sent to ISPs are handled "better" (in a to-be-defined
    >     metric).
    > 
    > A process that allows to use emails from other random people is not a *real validation* it looks closer to a joke.
    
    If the NCC's existing abuse mail validation mails hit other people's
    mailboxes, those can report back, and the NCC will surely follow up with
    the LIR that did this incorrect entry.
    
    
    I have an idea.
    
    I will set up a service where everyone can have an e-mail address which
    will totally follow everything you propose as validation mechanism - like,
    click on tokes, report back in 10 minutes (even in the middle of the 
    night), etc. - LIRs that want to be spared this annoyance can just pay
    me 50 EUR/month, and I'll handle all these chores for them.
    
    So, this would totally fulfill your proposed policy, and not help in any
    bit with *abuse handling*.

That automated system will be against the policy. I've already worded it out in such way that is not possible this type of "work-around the policy", at least it was my original intent to avoid it. If I've broken something across more than 20 versions that I edited internally since started, I will make sure to fix it in the next version.
    
    Can you now see why your proposal is useless in achieving it (not very
    clearly stated) goal?  And if something is not useful towards the goal,
    but has lots of drawbacks, it should not be followed.
    
    Gert Doering
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