[anti-abuse-wg] 2019-04 New Policy Proposal (Validation of "abuse-mailbox")

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> c. Alignment with other RIRs:
> A similar proposal has been accepted in APNIC (being implemented) and is
under discussion in the LACNIC, AFRINIC and ARIN regions.
> =====
>
> i.e. 1 region on track, 4 still to go (RIPE included here).


So it looks that this proposal it's not so avant-garde, since the other
regions are having the same needs and one of them already include this
policy


-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos Friaças [mailto:cfriacas at fccn.pt] 
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2019 0:06 AM
To: Sérgio Rocha <sergio.rocha at makeitsimple.pt>
Cc: anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net
Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] 2019-04 New Policy Proposal (Validation of
"abuse-mailbox")



On Sat, 18 May 2019, S�rgio Rocha wrote:

> We belong to this group: " Some people are really thankful when they 
> receive a notice and they understand they have something to fix. :-)"
> And we would be more happy if we have sure that all the abuse contacts 
> are real, at least in RIPE region.

About the "at least in RIPE region", there is text on 2019-04 about that:

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c. Alignment with other RIRs:
A similar proposal has been accepted in APNIC (being implemented) and is
under discussion in the LACNIC, AFRINIC and ARIN regions.
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i.e. 1 region on track, 4 still to go (RIPE included here).


Cheers,
Carlos



> S�rgio Rocha
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: anti-abuse-wg [mailto:anti-abuse-wg-bounces at ripe.net] On Behalf 
> Of Carlos Fria�as via anti-abuse-wg
> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2019 23:52 PM
> To: Taras Heichenko <tasic at hostmaster.ua>
> Cc: anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net
> Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] 2019-04 New Policy Proposal (Validation 
> of
> "abuse-mailbox")
>
>
>
> On Fri, 17 May 2019, Taras Heichenko wrote:
>
>>> My team has nearly sent out 6000 abuse reports (only about intrusion
> attempts and brute force attacks) since Jan 1st this year.
>>> I've just checked, and only 2.5% bounced. 2018's bounces were around
> 4.5%.
>>
>> Did you calculate percentage of deliberate reactions to your abuse
> reports?
>
> No, not yet.
>
>
>> What is main purpose to deliver letter without problem or to get
> deliberate reaction to it?
>
> We assume some of the nasty stuff we see comes from infected devices. 
> If legitimate owners care to desinfect, it's possible we will receive 
> less events... i.e. everyone should be sending out more notices. Some 
> people are really thankful when they receive a notice and they 
> understand they have something to fix. :-)
>
>
> Carlos
>
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>