[anti-abuse-wg] 2019-03 and over-reach

El 23/3/19 23:40, "anti-abuse-wg en nombre de Ronald F. Guilmette" <anti-abuse-wg-bounces at ripe.net en nombre de rfg at tristatelogic.com> escribió:

    
    In message <6179dc11-f299-c076-0ae1-2f2d22eb6115 at foobar.org>, 
    Nick Hilliard <nick at foobar.org> wrote:
    
    >If there were legislation and enforcement in this area, we wouldn't be 
    >having this conversation.
    
    Yes, actually, we would.

Agree
    
    Does anybody really believe that if, for example, Moldova outlawed BGP
    hijacking tomorrow *and* if they even started arresting suspects, that
    the entire problem would utterly disappear from the entire RIPE region
    the day after that?  I think not.  France?  The Neatherlands?  Sweden?
    No. No. No.  There isn't a single european country whose laws can
    bring this plague to an end, nor even any subset of european countries.
    The problem no more respects national boundaries than does the influenza
    virus.

There is one more reason for that. There is no way LEA can act against every hijack in a timely fashion (I'm thinking in making sure that cases are taking no more than 2-3 months average), same way that massive spam or data protection cases, are most of the time even *not* actually prosecuted by DPAs.
    
    Furthermore, I very much look forward to the day when one or more BGP
    hijackers... or *any* kind of cybercriminal for that matter...  will be
    extradited from Russia to stand trial in some less friendly jurisdiction.
    But today is not that day.
    
    
    Regards,
    rfg
    
    



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