[anti-abuse-wg] 2019-03 New Policy Proposal (BGP Hijacking is a RIPE Policy Violation)

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=?UTF-8?Q?T=C3=B6ma_Gavrichenkov?= <ximaera at gmail.com> wrote:

>2. OTOH the ultimate result (membership cancellation) may be seen as a
>very heavy punishment.

Did you have some particular alternative in mind that you wanted to propose?
Sending the miscreant hijacker to bed without supper perhaps?

>- hire a script kiddie who will break into that company's Mikrotik;
>- announce roughly half of IPv4 address space through that breach just
>for it to be surely on the news;
>- relax and enjoy watching your competition disappearing in no later
>than 2,5 months.

I do believe that the main idea here was *not* to have the nuclear missles
on a hair-trigger *or* to launch them within a few minutes of the beginning
of a hijacking event, but rather to *notify* the party responsible, and
then, if and ONLY IF absolutely NO ACTION is taken to resolve the problem
after some reasonable period of time, then, and only then, it would
*begin* to be a real possibility that sanctions would be applied.

Believe me, none of the sponsors or proponents of this proposal wants to
see the nuclear missles launched mistakenly, for example, in response to
a falling meteor or a volcanic eruption somewhere.  Any such premature
over-reaction would quite obviously be Bad, and that passage of time
usually serves to clarify intent.


Regards,
rfg