[anti-abuse-wg] 2019-03 New Policy Proposal (BGP Hijacking is a RIPE Policy Violation)

On Wed, 20 Mar 2019, Gert Doering wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 09:06:11AM +0200, Hank Nussbacher wrote:
>> On Tue, 19 Mar 2019, Marco Schmidt wrote:
>>
>> More or less I agree with the proposal.  But what happens after a LIR is
>> found to be violation of the policy?  RIPE NCC puts out a statement "LIR X
>> is in violation of Policy nnnn"?  So what?  How does this policy assist
>> stopping the BGP hijack from taking place, even if it takes 1-2 months to
>> handle the paperwork?
>
> Well, that's a subtle twist of the proposal not actually spelled out - a
> LIR found to be in violation of RIPE policies is breaking their contract
> with the NCC (the SSA) and as such can be closed and their resources
> withdrawn.
>
> So that's a fairly effective way to sanction abusive behaviour.

The amount of time that will transpire from the time of abuse and a LIR 
closed and their resources withdrawn can well be in excess of a year if 
not two years.

Is that the end result we are looking for?

-Hank
>
> (I haven't decided whether I think this is going to work or do harm, so
> I'm not voicing support or opposition on the proposal itself)
>
> Gert Doering
>        -- NetMaster
>